Usually I plaster some catchy title, but let’s be honest Pluto and the 8th house do not need cheesy catch phrases or introductions.
Pluto planet of death and rebirth is at home in the 8th house and I’m accustomed to Pluto in the 8th house considering it has been there my entire life, people experiencing this via transit may be privy to some sudden and life altering experience and it can be quite alarming because they are not accustomed to the energy. I think if you have a planet nataly over time you will learn to harness that planets energy, have it work for you instead of against you.
The back story on Pluto
Pluto rules: death in all manners, physically, metaphorically, spiritually and rebirth. Pluto rules power, the fight for power, perhaps for some feeling powerless, control, domination, darkness, depth, endings, and beginnings. Pluto’s Nickname is Lord of the Underworld. Look to the natal house that holds Pluto to see where you fight for control, where you will meet powerful people and where you will die and be reborn.
The back story on the 8th house
The 8th house rules similar things that is why Pluto is comfortable there, death rebirth, power, it also rules joint resources…you look to the 8th house to see what will occur with people you share money with. This can be a bank, a spouse, a business partner, the 8th house also rules sex; I’m going to say the darker part of sex not the light and fuzzy part look to the 5th house for unicorns and hand holding. I have the Sun in the 5th so yes I do believe in fairytales 😉
Pluto in the 8th house manifestation
Change and Transformation
I have been thinking about Pluto in the 8th house lately, how it manifests for me and what they do not tell you in Astrology 101 textbooks. A “psychic” once told me; you bring men face to face with who they are and this makes it difficult for you to have relationships or friendships because people do not want to know who they are, they prefer to hide. I have been thinking about this lately. Torn between the notion of accepting people as they are or catapulting them to a better truer existence. I have an issue with this; I have an issue with accepting people as they are. I think in personal relationships we should seek to bring people to live there highest potential. I’m unsure if we should allow people we care about to perpetuate there less than glowing attributes. In personal relationships don’t we want to be involved with those that deliver us to our higher selves? Don’t we want someone that holds us accountable?
That is the deal with Pluto in the 8th house, Pluto is a probing planet when making an aspect to another person’s personal planet (Sun, Moon Mercury, Venus, Mars) in synastry or perhaps our own personal planet we seek to transform that planet. If Pluto in on your Sun or someone else’s, we wish to change their identity, if it’s on the moon we wish to purify and strip old feelings and replace them with new. It represents a cathartic transformative process, purge the old and make room for the new. Death and Rebirth. Personally I’m always changing; I have Pluto in my 8th house aspecting my sun, moon, mercury and Venus and is a part of a cardinal t square. Plutonian energies are always at work.
That being said, I have began to question my own motives, the fact that I wish to transform people. I do think at times who the fuck am I? If someone is happy screwing up there life, living a lie or in some faux relationship, let them. Ah but Pluto is Compulsive, to me it represents truth. Textbooks say With Pluto in the 8th house this is indicative of having the power to transform other peoples’ lives. Its compulsive really, I find myself digging and probing, the more reserved someone is the more I want to get in there, get inside and figure them out and truth be told once I get in there I’m gone, I lose interest. Mission Completed. I like to go where others fear to go, explore emotional depths and visit the crawl spaces of peoples mind.
The Truth
Pluto in the 8th is on a quest for meaning and truth. You can skip the pleasantries and the how was your weekend bullshit. And don’t even think about lying to me, because I know. People with Pluto in the 8th house pick up on the undercurrents. I also prefer heavy conversations; preferably the less long winded the better. This isn’t a placement for mincing words. I ask questions that others wouldn’t dare ask and people actually tell me there truths. Not all but most. I don’t do frivolous conversation and I hate meaningless chit chat. I want to know if you think you are married to the wrong person and which child of yours is your favorite? One of my favorite book series is: Post Secret I have the collection; people write in to a PO BOX there darkest secrets anonymously. I love that idea, write it down, send it in and free your soul. I have 0 judgments when it comes to confessions; I think the truth is a gateway like astrology to greater understanding. Pluto in the 8th house is a natural born psychologist.
Extreme in temperament, power struggles and death oh my
I’m a person of extremes; love/hate beautiful/ugly. I think I unconsciously seek out relationships with power struggles. Was I the only kid in camp that “dated” my camp counselor? Probably. Power struggles, digging, searching, changing and oh yeah dying. People always die on me, I can discuss death the way most people would talk about chores, it’s just with Pluto in the 8th house you are accustomed to it. I’m not the one to hold your hand when you 101 year old grandmother died, just saying. Like my fellow 8th house Pluto friend would say, call me when you lost a parent, a grandparent before the 6th grade.
Crisis
Pluto in the 8th is great during an emergency, I can handle high-pressure situations with ease, but have me miss my train to work or misplace my house keys and I’m crying in my purse and cursing at the top of my lungs. I always find that to be a weird dichotomy in my personality. I also fee easily wounded, Cancer Sun in the 5th house can be very needy, fragile but eventually I see my way through the tears, heart break and disappointment and use it to transform into some one greater.
Where is Pluto in your Natal Chart and how is he working for you?
Pluto in the 8th House in a good aspect with the Sun and with a bad aspect with Saturn.
I have pluto in Scorpio in 8th house, and sun in cancer on 5th house cusp. It sounds like we may have some similar placements.
I think a cancer sun is naturally very intuitive, though not always consciously so. In any case I think a cancer sun with this pluto placement is an incredibly insightful combination.
I have always felt like I could look right through people and easily read everything about them. I have also had countless deep conversations with people where they just spilled their biggest and/or darkest secrets to me whether I consciously wanted them to or not. I’ve heard so many times from people; that they have never told anyone this, that they can’t believe they are telling me these things, that there’s something about me that they haven’t encountered in anyone before that they feel pulling it out of them and they are happy to give it up. Usually those conversations are very cathartic for the person spilling their guts out to me, and I get the impression they feel something between deep appreciation and a major debt. This happens all the time, and I am always shocked by it. After studying astrology I definitely think this is related to the 8th house pluto placement.
Also, I can definitely identify with wanting to help someone discover themselves and improve their lives like you talked about. It’s like I can see it so easily that if I just help them see then they might achieve their dreams, or overcome their sorrow, or deal with whatever it is they are dealing with.
All in all this is a great article. I feel like I learned about myself. Thank you!
I have Pluto in the 8th house too conjoined to Uranus, and I know that I can only transform myself. I have no desire to transform others, as I accept them as they are. If others want to transform, then it is up to them, and if I am the doorway through which they walk in order to do so, then so be it! 🙂
I have Pluto conjunct North Node in Libra in my 8th house. Along with Sun in Libra and Mercury in Virgo in the 8th. Virgo being the house ruler.
I agree that I cannot accept people at face value, if I care about them. I want to destroy their facade and get to who they really are, dark, dirty, flawed and utterly beautiful to me! If I dont care about someone though, they can be as fake and shallow as they need to be. I just roll my eyes and smile.
Sex is difficult for me. I need for sex to destroy me again and again, strip me down to the bare bones so that I can be reborn afterwards. I need deep, intense, all consuming sex that bonds me at the emotional and spiritual level. Unfortunately, I live in a modern society that just wants some sexy fun and then to move on to the next. That just doesnt work for me.
The 8th house is a house Ive had to grow in to and I dont let just anyone in. The faint and fake of heart run head first into a no trespassing sign.
I am from 66 which means Pluto Uranus conjunct ,, in 8. house and Moon in Leo 8. house,,, these days quite interestingly i meet a lot of people with moon in 8.
Feels like karmic connections all..
I recognize a lot here dear starsmoon,, I guess its also the Pluto/Uranus opposed Saturn that is the natural psychologist thing. Had to be to survive my intense upbringing.
I so enjoy other intense people that doesn’t get scared just looking at me,,
Know thyself,,
I’d say doin´ some seriously yoga,, has changed my mind about changing others,, Now rather ,,seeing how much, i persist real change myself,,
I am a mystery to me,, no earth and no cardinal what so ever,, Mars and Venus unaspected,,
I ought to be a wobbling simmering cloud,,, I feel different,,though not to myself:-)
People always change their minds about me,, for good or bad!
Hi Lisa, I would love to connect with you too, what s the best way ?
Hi there, I would love to connect with you. I have an 8th house stellium in virgo too. Along with Jupiter in Leo on the eight house cusp. I would love to hear about your life expereinces! My journey has been full of life, death, surgery (open-heart) surgery as a child. My father died when I was 3 and have healed and fought for my life with different health issues. Have had numerous experiences with the unseen world. And much more.
umm… don’t know how how i feel about this… i agree with the inner lying detector because i can’t be easily fooled, and prefering deep conversations over little chit chats but i’m not as “direct” as to disregard someone if they want to talk, i couuld lend an ear to hear them if they need to. I have a stellium in Capricorn with Uranus, Neptune, Mercury and Saturn in the 10th house with pluto in scorpio in the 8th as a singleton making contact with my saturn and mercury; with my moon in leo squaring my pluto!! —horrible!! i know…and those who don’t know me think that i could a super bi** or the sweetest person in the world.
Love your insight thanks!
I know three people with Pluto/8th: 1) a quite powerful witch (female) and shamanic healer who has Pluto/8th. I think this enables her to be able to go down to the depths of hell, so to speak, to find things a person has lost, or find out what needs healing in a person’s life. She also has Moon/Venus conjunct in Scorpio/10th… it’s her “profession” and reputation to be able to perform this function in the world. Pluto/8th people are also “exorcists,” in my experience. 2) My ex-husband also had Pluto/8th. He was a mess, though, going through a lot of deep, and painful changes in life. I think he was supposed to be a “wounded healer,” lift himself out of hell and accordingly help others to do the same, but he was never able to help himself. 3) a good male friend of mine also has Pluto/8th. He too has strong shamanic/ occult abilities.
I also have pluto in the eight, in a stellium with uranus, mercury and the sun ! all in virgo with leo on the eight house cusp, this is the first time i have heard it mentioned about tons of sex or none at all, and it certainly is tue for me ! also i feel i have some inherited very deep, dark and very painful wounds, that have been floating around for god knows how long, in the collective unconcius of my family !
Hi Danielle, your blog was exactly what I was looking for, when I started to search for Cancer on the 6th house cusp; our charts seem to be so similar. I’m Aquarius rising, with Leo moon and Gemini sun. My Venus is in Aries, I noticed yours was in Gemini, so I can’t help but wonder if you were born shortly after me (in Cancer in 1974?) I was born in late May. However, I have the same house placements as you, I also have Pluto in the 8th in Libra, and Uranus in the 8th as well. My Saturn and Mars both fall in Cancer ughhh lol, and my moon is on my descendant opposing my ascendant. Thanks for the interesting blog, most of the articles totally resonate with me!
pluto and moon in the 8th too. I’m Scorpio sun yeah what u say sound very familiar though knowing the true meaning behind someone’s actions is both a gift and a curse
I would consider this a stellium or 8th house conjunction… I would have to look at your entire chart though Pluto in the 8th is either tons of sex or none at all
heyy. i have pluto scorpio in 8th house scorpio(with mercury conjunct venus 3deg in the LAST 5 degrees of 8th house,should i consider the conjunction in the 8th house?). but the only aspects that my pluto does are a semi sextile to mars(and my mars is in a stellium,does it mean that it does a semi sextile to the other planets of stellium?) , pluto sesquiquadrate ascendant and pluto square to saturn :s i have kind of sexual problems :p im not a very active person and not very confident abt my body!do u have some insights on my afflicted pluto 8th house?its scary.
So you must have moon in Aries that’s personal I have that w Pluto square Pluto Pluto is also squaring our moons
This may be a generational thing for Aqua rising ones like myself to have Uranus and Pluto in the 8th house. The closest aspect in my natal is Pluto opp. Moon in the second house. The current transiting square between Uranus and Pluto is hitting these in mine. So I m getting Uranus conj Moon, and opp Pluto. Pluto square both Moon and nat Pluto. I wonder if you are getting any transits by these jolly good change makers?
Yes people feel threatened by 8th house planet people you have to develop a thick skin not you personally all of us so we aren’t disappointed by others especially when we see thru them & into their true intentions very interesting about the libra
I’m not a psychologist. My sun is in Libra…all the planets in the 8th house are in Libra, except Mercury which is Virgo. I don’t know if I am deep, but I am very analytical and I feel that I can pick up on what people are really feeling…I guess good intuition. I definitely have difficulty because with all the Libra…I want things to be peaceful but the 8th house makes sure that doesn’t happen.
Some say Pluto in the 8th house is powerful but I don’t know about that. If it is powerful, it is in a way that people want to take you down because they feel threatened by the power.
Are you a psychologist that is alot of 8th house planets I would say you are deep! What sign is your sun?
I have Pluto in the 8th house. I also have Sun, Moon, Venus, Mercury, Mars in the 8th house. I can’t tell you if it is Pluto or the other signs that make my life so difficult. Sorry I couldn’t be more helpful, but the way you describe yourself is similar to how I am. I also have Saturn in 7th and Neptune in the 10th. I basically have a terrible chart that astrologers carefully and diplomatically describe as “strong”.
Pluto in the 8th, along with Uranus, Jupiter, & Venus. Uranus, Pluto, & Venus are in Virgo, and Jupiter is in Leo. (Midheaven, Moon, Mecury, Neptune, & 11th house in Scopio, have to believe this is intimately related.) I also have Sun Opposition Saturn. Seems we may have some things in common. I’m just learning about astrology & man has this been eye opening!! I’m grateful to have found your website!! My Solar Return has Saturn, Venus, Mecury, & North Node in the 8th House this year…… I’m riding the wave. : )
Oh you are deep deep deep:)
Pluto in the 8th too!! with Sun and Mercury 🙂