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Ruler of the 1st in the 12th house; Edward Snowden and Julian Assange

Published December 27, 2016 by starsmoonandsun

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I am not comparing these men to one another I am comparing birth charts***

I watched the movie Snowden last night I confess I really didn’t know much about him.  I am not sure how I felt after the movie….let me retract that I know exactly how I felt:  I think if you take a job working for the CIA you take all the shady shit that comes with it. The Government is dirty business and to think otherwise I suppose either made him naive or just very idealistic. Naturally I ran his natal chart along side with Julian Assange and Chelsea Manning who happened to pop up (we do not have a birth time for Manning Assange Birth time is questionable) on an astrological article on whistle blowers. I thought it was interesting that they all have Natal Moon in Scorpio; planets in Scorpio are known for secrecy and hidden agendas, they never reveal their feelings or show their hand. They are known for their investigative practices and natural inclination to distrust others.

Donna Cunningham writes in her book “The Moon in Your Life” about the Scorpio moon individual “the world is out to get you -never let yourself be weak, never lose your cool,  always be on top of any situation”

Scorpio moon loves holding all the cards, having all the information. I was raised by a Scorpio moon the mantra was never let them see you cry and never write anything down you wouldnt want anyone else to read.

But what struck me the most was that both Snowden and Assange have the ruler of the 1st in the 12th house (if the birth time on these charts are indeed correct) Rulerships are often overlooked in astrology and yet they are very important.

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A house is never empty in astrology, you always have a sign on the cusp so while I have no planets in my first house Aquarius is rising this means Uranus is the ruler of my 1st house this is also known as my chart ruler Uranus is placed in my 8th house so I embody a Pluto/Scorpio like energy since the 8th house governs; sex, death and taxes. I always feel like parts of me are dying and I am continuously being reborn. This house also governs “occult” and here I am no explanation needed 

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Sometimes we have many chart rulers I for instance have Pisces intercepted so Neptune is also my chart ruler as is Jupiter (traditional ruler of Pisces)  and Saturn since Saturn is the traditional ruler of Aquarius

So all in all I have 4 chart rulers

  1. Jupiter
  2. Neptune
  3. Uranus
  4. Saturn

My Astrologer said this adds to a more complicated personality, I certainly cannot disagree though personally I mostly identify with Uranus in the 8th and Neptune in the 10th

You can do this with all of the houses for instance Cancer rules my 6th house this house governs work, your day to day activities with Cancer as the ruler you can assume I work nights (the moon) I work with the public (moon rules the public) It is hard for me to establish a routine (Moon fluctuates daily)  to look further into this we can see where the ruler of Cancer (the moon); is placed; the moon is placed in my 2nd house the 2nd house rules the money you earn I assure you I only work for the money. I have no attachment to my job other than that. I do not derive any sense of identify from my job like other people do it is simply a means to an end.

Here are some cheat sheets for houses and rulerships


I wrote about Paris Jackson here who is 12th house heavy ( as another variation of 12th house Neptunian energy)

Paris Jackson Natal Chart

And I wrote about the heavy Neptunian influenced now deceased Google Exec Forrest Hayes Here

Kiss of Death & Google Exec

I tend to concentrate on the shadow aspects that come with 12th house/Pisces/Neptune energy they govern addictions, fantasy, illusion and what you don’t see clearly

Venus in the 12th, -secret affairs

Moon in the 12th-Mother with addiction or it could be a mother that died young

Sun in the 12th house can be an unknown father or men may be the cause of your own undoing

Anything Neptunian/Pisces/ 12th house I always caution the person about self undoing behaviors, about addiction, about mental illness because these are the shadow sides of planets placed here  but I also know a Psychiatrist with planets in the 12th house that works in a prison. Astrology isn’t one stop shopping so the influence of the placement may vary-

Also please do remember you have your entire life to live out the natal chart! You may not be an addict today  but can you say you will never be  one? You may not have an affair now but you never know where you will be 15 years from now

Edward Snowden and Julian Assange

The first thing I noticed when looking at Edward Snowden and Julian Assange chart was that they both have the ruler of the 1st (the chart ruler) placed in the 12th house.

Snowden’s chart ruler is Mercury and Assange is Jupiter and they are both placed in the 12th house the 12th house is naturally ruled by Pisces. The 12th house governs Psychiatric facilities, self undoing, prisons, the afterlife, solitude, secret societies and what you don’t see.

When the ruler of the 1st is placed in the 12th you can work in secret. Assage and Snowden also have Neptune in hard aspect to personal planets as did Forrest Hayes (see article above) when you are not an addict, when you are not a musician or an artist, a psychiatrist, an inmate, you very well can work in secret and behind the scenes. The 12th house also rules secret organizations, things that are done in private, things done behind the scenes, underground movements etc

With Mercury being Snowdens ruling planet in the 12th and Mercury being the messsanger (his Merucry is also in sign of rulership Gemini)  Snowdens leaks were Mercurial in nature; secret communications, text messages, emails, phone calls etc

Where as Julian Assange ruling planet is Jupiter that placed in the 12th house Jupiter governs publishing and clearly he has Wikileakes where he publishes (Jupiter) private or secret (12th house) information. Assange according to Wikipedia worked with a secret hacking group or began one.

The 12th house also governs self sacrifice I will say that with the ruler of the 1st being placed in the 12th you may be willing to sacrifice yourself for a greater cause.

My astrology instructor once told me “Aquarius will fight for the cause but Pisces will die for the cause”

I have to believe that Snowden and Assange must have felt called to do what they have done on a higher level, perhaps on a soul level. That’s Pisces/Neptune/12th house too

A Neptune Affair; you are the dream and I am the dreamer

Published October 22, 2016 by starsmoonandsun

In another life he could have been mine I suppose all of his planets fall in my 7th house and 3 of mine fall in his. Perhaps that is why I had to know him. The 7th house is what you seek in a mate and a part of me felt like wow there you are.  This vague I am so comfortable to be here with you.

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I see him through this film this kaleidoscope of colors. I think he is beautiful

I have had this song on repeat for a minute

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I was reading a book that said our combined energies is a “gossamer fabric” very beautiful and delicate, light and ethereal.

Neptune is the planet of dreams, addictions, escapism; it rules what you don’t see it over sees fantasies and all things magical.  Neptune eludes, deludes and is evasive. Now you see him now you don’t. My Tarot Reader who knows nothing is particular about my situation pulled out the Magician card a few weeks ago and told me “don’t let him dazzle you with bullshit”. Neptune themed relationships often involve someone with addiction issues, someone looking to be saved and most definitely someone looking to escape.

Sometimes I think Neptune relationships have a difficult time surviving  or even getting off the ground in this cold Saturn ruled world where buying homes and laying down foundations take precedence over dreams and connections on a soul level.  Neptune contacts after all are otherworldly and not of this plane.  The keynotes are telepathy, dreaming of one another, and they are marked by an evasive you just can’t put your finger on them quality.

I have Neptune conjunct my Midheaven, my Neptune is a part of my grand fire trine with moon and Saturn too much reality erodes me, I much prefer the dream the smugness of it all; the gossamer fabric.

Perhaps for someone more cerebral this would never do.

I feel him on the perimeter of me, so close but yet so far. The other day I yelled why are you hiding from me?! And laughed and thought what a Neptunian thing to say, hiding in plain sight. He appears and disappears like a rabbit in a hat. I told him I hope I haunt him forever; I have no doubt I will. One night I will seep into his subconscious while he is on his 7th dream.

 

My Neptune squares his Moon, Mercury and Mars; His Neptune opposes my Venus and Mars.

A lot of talk goes on about who is deceiving who in these connections, perhaps it is neither. Maybe we just deceive ourselves.

I am not sure how he experiences me, he is very clear if not heavy handed in speech and I wonder with my Neptune squaring his Mercury do I bring him some sort of mental confusion. I generally do not talk a lot, not an excess of words. I believe this aspect is said that the Neptune values the intellectual accomplishments of the mercury person but I also feel the Neptune person (moi) is here to teach the mercury person something about spirituality.  A lesson I am going to presume the mercury person doesn’t want to learn  because these two planets meet by square. A square is an obstacle, it shows tension.

With the opposition it has a see saw effect; it is often debated who sees who like a dream. His Neptune opposes my Venus and mars and I see him as this magnificent I don’t even have words to describe sort of way, I tell myself that isn’t who he is that is merely my perception but no matter I see him through that sparkling veneer. It can also be and I have had it the Neptune person project his ideals onto Venus, I dated someone for a year and we had this aspect 100 years later he will say he never loved anyone like me.

These relationships or connections can be marked by forgiveness and compassion so even if something goes wrong an element of –its ok- will permeate.

Neptune relationships are supposed to be the most heart breaking; the dream doesn’t meet the reality. That’s what is written, it offers the promise of paradise that it can’t quite deliver.

Time has taught me to let things be as they are, I do believe what’s meant for you flows to you effortlessly and lets hope whats meant for me strolls in on a pink puffy cloud

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“The Kiss of Death and The Google Exec”

Published January 25, 2015 by starsmoonandsun

I watched 48 hours last night, the episode was entitled “The Kiss of Death and The Google Exec” You can read the full story here

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2925587/He-nervous-went-Police-chief-describes-step-step-unseen-video-shows-high-end-escort-inject-father-five-Google-exec-lethal-heroin-overdose-aboard-luxury-yacht.html

Or here

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/coroner-ruled-google-execs-forrest-hayes-death-an-accident-says-public-defender/

It’s the story of a high powered extremely wealthy man by the name of Forrest Hays that was doing heroine-yes inject in your vein –heroine with a prostitute and overdosed on his luxurious yacht.  And now she-the escort is on trial for manslaughter for giving him the hot shot, the lethal dose that killed him. The hotshot  50+ something year old Hays chose to do.  I’m quite confident if he had been found in an abandoned building rather than on a $345,000 yacht no one would give two shits.

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But Forrest Hays was wealthy, he lived in Silicon Valley, was married for over 17 years with 5 children (I can’t find a single picture of his wife and family), he worked for Google on a top secret project (no one will say what exactly he did there), he loved his yacht which he named “Escape”, and he obviously loved prostitutes and drugs as well. All of this was screaming NEPTUNE to me. Secrets, illusions, drugs, prostitutes, the yacht …Neptune rules water and boats let’s not forget the array of secrets.

Some people you read about and you know what to expect in their natal chart. When Betty Broderick killed Dan Broderick she had Pluto exactly conjunct her Sun. It was a given all that hate, jealousy, rage, over an affair and financial issues. Other people I am like huh? When I looked at the chart most recently of wealthy murderer and cross dressing Robert Durst …his chart is an anomaly to me (perhaps because he himself is an anomaly). But the kiss of death and the Google exec, I knew Neptune had to be prominent in his chart and it certainly is.

Neptune ruler of glamour, illusion, deception, water, addictive substances, boats, dreams, secrets, prostitutes, etc

Often people with a prominent Neptune aren’t seen clear by others, they have this thin veil, this filter they are seen through and depending on who is looking they may be viewed as a sinner or saint. Hardly in between.

Sometimes people with a prominent Neptune particularly in the 1st house or on the Sun or on their Natal Moon aren’t sure of who they really are so how can anyone else know them?

In any event Forrest Hays had his Sun in Taurus opposite Neptune in Scorpio, with the opposition it is likely you will operate in two distinct manners. So I am sure Hays was all the Taurus sun is, dutiful, working hard, building his empire, (lets not forget Taurus can be indulgent, they rule greed) so he was buying his homes, and he also on occasion wanted to do his Neptune thing, take his yacht out called Escape, be with his escorts he met on a Seeking Arrangement website where wealthy men exchange cash for good times.  Neptune on the Sun and Moon also speaks of drug use, the desire to escape, the desire to merge with something beyond the mundane. The natal Neptune is also in Scorpio so I am sure she wasn’t his first secret sexual encounter.

His success can be attributed to his natal Sun square Saturn, this is a difficult aspect the person may suffer from low self-esteem , hereditary depression passed down from the father;  the way the individual overcomes this is by working, by accomplishing, by becoming the best in his or her field. They have a desire to achieve to feel validated. I do not want to undermine this aspect it is very challenging. The person feels they have to overcome barriers …the desire to achieve is strong and can be reflected in his 4.5 million dollar home and a dozen other things we will probably never know about, because Neptune opposing his sun will keep things hidden.

I would love to tell you what he did as a career but I can’t Saturn planet of work and structure is exactly square his Neptune (secrets) as one article stated

“Hayes then went on to Google for a high-paying job at their top-secret location, where impossible dreams are transformed into reality”

Poor Forrest Hayes, his family is probably wondering who he really was. He probably didn’t know who he really was. I think these stories can be a lesson for anyone that looks at other peoples’ lives and sees a perfect picture. You never know what is lurking below the surface, don’t let that thin veil of Neptune fool you

Forrest Hayes Natal Chart

Once Upon a Time, Mazzy Star and Neptune Square Natal Venus Transit

Published January 11, 2013 by starsmoonandsun

once upon a timeclockimagesCA1ESM6SimagesCAUM0JOXTransit Neptune Squaring my natal Venus is the only major transit I have right now, though Pluto in Capricorn opposing my natal Sun is well on its way and even closer is Pluto in Capricorn squaring my natal moon in Aries. I expected this transit to be a “feel good one”. Ah not so fast. When does it end I want to throw my hands up into the sky. Apparently not until sometime NEXT year. I cried today while grocery shopping I always wonder why am I never given the opportunity to dream a bit. Recently I was telling a story to someone; I had a date with some guy ; many years ago. We went back to house, nothing happened but I had taken off this very heavy gladiator bracelet I had on and put it on his sofa table. He gave me a tour of his place and upon seeing his walk in closet I exclaimed, “Wow I can fit all my shit in here”. Next thing I knew he was handing me my bracelet and quickly escorting me to my car. I knew he wouldn’t call; quite frankly I was 22 and didn’t care. When he handed me the bracelet I felt this surge of energy, the I’m never calling you again I’m not ready for you to move all your shit into my house energy.

This tale is indicative of my entire existence with men, and lately the question has been on my mind; why can’t I just dream a little bit. Why is every beginning so obviously marred with a tragic ending. Why do things end before they begin? I watch other people conduct entire faux relationships you know who they are, they dress alike, perhaps one is always cheating but there are these large enouncements concerning there relationship on face book, perhaps they even share a facebook account (not that anything is wrong with that) and I’m like who is actually believing this shit show. It all seems so very transparent. With that being said I would like to dream for awhile, I would like to be that naive to believe what someone tells me, never question and dare not know any better. But I’m not afforded this and I would like to know why?

The technical stuff
Neptune is currently in its sign of rulership Pisces; it will remain in Pisces until 2025! Neptune rules dreams, illusions, addictions, charlatans, deceptions, self sacrifice. Neptune is currently squaring my Venus in Gemini; Venus rules love, beauty, finance,and sex to some extent. Text books say during this transit you are in danger of picking up liars, schemers, martyr, expierence problems with finance, people taking advantage of you and indiscrimination when selecting a partner. They say it is better to wait until after this transit is complete to enter into a relationship, I say sign me the fuck up, I want to dream! Bob Mark the Astrologer so eloquently put it you are prone to like people because of their issues “Oh you poor little thing. I know you’re an alcoholic, a junkie, a con-artist, and tri-sexual. Let me marry you and make you all better! Do yourself a favor and use the magic number instead. Please memorize it. It is 911. Dial that and have them taken away. Let a professional take care of them”

My issue is more of the fact that I don’t get the chance to dream I would love to have some moments where I can escape (Neptune rules escapism) my daily life! I want to listen to Mazzy Star (Neptune and Venus rule music) and dance around my living room with someone while drinking some wine (Neptune rules alcohol) Venus can rule excess. I can say with direct honesty that I’m looking for an escape from my day to day existence and none has been provided. I want the pleasure of believing even if it isn’t true; instead here I’m in reality everything so painfully obvious. Never permitted to dream. I listen to women tell me, oh I know he has no job”, but I really love him”. And I think hmmm ok or he hit me but it was just once. I think to myself there isn’t a transit in the world that will make me love you more than I love me. Ok. But still I would like nights that you believe will last forever, that feeling when 2 people are first falling in love & you know it. You can feel it on the other person and you believe it. It has been so long since I loved someone and even longer since I loved the right someone. I have been blissfully unaware how closed I have been until just recently. I invited someone over I will call him “Scorpio moon”, we talked about life, astrology, music, Mazzy Starr oddly playing and for a minute I believe she was stuck on repeat, and I felt like I was outside myself watching time move on. I haven’t talked with or kissed a man since my plutonic love which now oddly feels like another lifetime ago. When telling the story to my coworker I said it was so weird I feel like a part of me has been frozen in time and Scorpio Moon set my clock forward. Your biological clock, she teased 😉
No like the clock on the show Once Upon a Time on ABC, all these people are trapped in time for the first season unaware of there previous lives. Karmic Ties and lost Loves Oh my! They know something is missing, but not sure what it is. One of the characters on the show is a child that demands an adult Bring back the happy endings.
I cant help but wonder where is my happy ending or atleast faux happy ending. Neptune square Venus in astrology is dubbed the “farytale aspect” Apparently the only farytales that exist for me are on tv because I never get the chance to dream. Reality is an ever looming prescence.

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