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Published September 19, 2016 by starsmoonandsun

comet-movie-quotes

This is a quote from the movie Comet

I think it pretty much sums up a Pluto conjunct Sun in synatsry

I met someone recently and this is exactly how I feel, I need to know him no rhyme no reason.

Just this vague curiosity that sort of gnaws at you, a whisper a light come hither

Subtle Pluto is always subtle….until it isn’t LOL the drive is unconscious

Instinctively I knew my Pluto had to be on his Sun.

I prefer Pluto in synastry, the depth, the darkness, the transformation

I have Pluto on my Sun natal so this is going to be mirrored in my relationships with men

I always say I would chose Pluto over Saturn anytime

I would rather climb out of the fiery pits of hell but at least I will be reborn

If you don’t master Pluto, Pluto will master you. Where Pluto is in your natal chart is where you will experience things beyond your control

Pluto is square my Sun from the 8th house; all relationships with men are these transformational journeys-feel my eyes roll-

I have learned to harness the energy if you don’t and you are like me attracting Plutonian men and situations you will always attract situations where power plays take center stage. It takes an evolved person to work with Pluto.

Pluto is the planet of power; who harnesses it, who exerts it and who holds it. When you have 2 unevloved people with heavy Pluto contacts you have what I call the –check mate –situation one always holding court over the other.

Its always strange to me when you know astrology you can feel the energy that is activated when you meet someone

Pluto has to do with control, so knowing my Pluto is on this Mans sun I’m controlled  I am grounded I am conscious of the energy I am putting out

In Jewel Mayberry’s Youtube Video (See here)  Sun conjunct Pluto she described Pluto Conjunct Sun in a way I never quite thought of

“the sun person makes them (Pluto) feel warm where usually these are the cold, dark, parts of themselves ”

“You (Pluto) are use to it being zero degrees but now its 90 (Sun)”

After I kissed him I tweeted

Kissing you was like being dead for a thousand years and being brought back to life.

How Pluto conjunct Sun can I get? Pluto rules death and the sun is the life force

During a conversation he mentioned something alluding to ruining his life.

In Jewel Mayberry’s video on sun conjunct Pluto she mentioned

“The sun person can see the Pluto person as a threat to their identify”

Pluto is an agent of change, Pluto transforms whatever it touches so while I was annoyed at the implication I was reminded that Pluto can perhaps come off as an imminent threat to the Sun persons identity

When I see him again I will try to travel lightly as to not send him running for the hills after all I haven’t I finished knowing him and Pluto loves unearthing whatever it touches bit by bit

 

 

 

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Karmic Ties Revisited

Published November 25, 2012 by starsmoonandsun

Awhile ago I wrote an entry on Karmic Ties that you can read here: http://starsmoonandsun.com/2011/10/13/karmic-ties/

I struggled for quite some time with my connection to someone, a plutonic love. The Phrase “Plutonic Love” stems from heavy Pluto ties in synastry: see pic below.

I kept seeing him; he even booked his honeymoon night at my place of employment. Oh the pain was unbearable! Attempting to figure out the why? Why was this happening? The concepts of free will vs. fate. My obsession with movies such as The Adjustment Bureau.

Ultimately I decided:

Life leads you to a path known as fate and we wield our free will in deciding if we will travel it or not

We chose our own destiny to a certain degree, and sometimes we may be crazy about someone but we don’t see ourselves spending the rest of our life with them or the timing is off or 1 million other reasons. Synastry can tell you how you affect another person, it is the art of looking at your natal chart and another person’s natal chart and examining patterns these patterns do not offer promises of eternal bliss or a happy marriage or even that you will end up together. Life holds no guarantees.

Recently I was bothered by someone; he was sort of getting under my skin. Considering my plutonian nature if it itches I want to get underneath and scratch it, see what that is about. Why? Forever wondering why? I looked at our synastry (this is not a person I date) and I was surprised that we had some lovely aspects (my sun in exact trine to his moon, Venus in one another’s 7th house, moon in 8th and 4th house overlays, we both share the same soul mission with both of our north nodes in the 8th house, his Pluto in exact conjunction my to NN) I’m like what the heck is this? I sent the charts to another astrologer for a 2nd opinion clearly I could see there were issues his Mars Square my Pluto and conjuncts my Sun….. Her reply was: “I’m not sure if you believe in past lives, but you have a lot of karmic connections”. And then I had my ah-ha moment.

Karmic Ties in Synastry indicate you carry past Karma with another human being, that you have lived, fought, loved one another in a previous lifetime. Karmic Ties often involve the moons nodes or when an outer planet Saturn, Uranus, Neptune or Pluto all the way out in the universe touches a personal planet of another’s Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus or Mars.

I had the sudden realization that perhaps the only people that truly affect us in this life are those that we have lived past lifetimes with. Those of us that are seeking transformation in love, substance in life will not attract the superficial bonds that others are drawn too.

Ya know it has been a long time since I saw my plutonic love perhaps about a year. So odd considering there was a time I couldn’t so much as leave my house and go to the gym without seeing him, I like to think that perhaps I wronged him in some previous life or may be earlier in this one and with him having booked his wedding rooms at my hotel, we are even now. Karmic debt has been paid in full. Our connection was dark and murky, after each night with him it took me a week to recover. When an astrologer peeked at my synastry with this other non-datable person she said His Sun conjuncts you’re Saturn and can illuminate your darkness. And just like that I feel like the light turned on

A Dedication to a Plutonic Love

Published July 1, 2011 by starsmoonandsun

There is platonic love based on friendship and respect that is non sexual in nature & then their is plutonic love! Huge difference! Plutonian love is everything; it is all encompassing. It rules love, hate, sex, passion, anger, jealousy, and transformation. Like a pendulum swinging from one extreme to the next with only one clear indication: afterwards you will never be the same.
I consider myself to be plutonian by nature Sun in the 2 nd decan of Cancer ruled by Scorpio, Moon in Aries (mars the lower octave of Pluto) with Uranus & Pluto natal in the 8th house. I’ve always been interested in astrology on a superficial level (oh yes Libra & Aquarius are compatible blah blah). After experiencing plutonic love I found myself delving head first into synastry in typical Pluto fashion, I yearned to control the outcome and when I couldn’t I wanted to know why. Why didn’t we work out?! Why wasn’t the feeling mutual? Why didn’t he just abandon his entire life as he knew it & come linger with me in the deep end of the ocean? Ridiculous, I know but Pluto wants what it wants!
There are entire sights dedicated to Pluto contacts in synastry, properly equipped with warning labels. They offer claims that Pluto always has the upper hand & the planet person feels it more. I don’t know about that. All I know is I’m forever changed. Plutonic love isn’t black and white; it holds many shades of gray. It isn’t the type of amore you place in a nice neat box & wrap with a pretty pink ribbon. It unearths all that is hidden perhaps even from yourself. I feel okay at the present moment; very much in control (very plutonian) I will not let this feeling overrule my head nor my life. I don’t cry, I let it go. I let him go though at times I feel haunted. As though his energy is pulling me in and somehow it seeps into my world just when I’m going about a normal day. I tell my friends he stalks my mind. I can’t quite reconcile the difference between fate and coincidence, recently having received a piece of junk mail for him at my house, stuck to my mail. Another time while at line in a bookstore 2 people waiting in front of me were discussing a party he is hosting. I joke with my friends and tell them I’m going to call 911 the next time this happens
911 whats your emergency?
Uh I would like to report a drive by sighting?
Everyone talks about Pluto opposition Venus like they are living in there own personal hell. I wonder is there anybody out there that has had Pluto aspecting every single planet of another persons chart like I have? From the Sun to the moon to mercury, to Venus and mars, Uranus, Saturn Neptune and Chiron, ascendant and the midheaven. I’m beginning to wonder if I should start a support group. Though perhaps I should be happy I didn’t know him longer.
I use to contact him when these silly things happened, in a thinly vailed attempt to get him to realize we did indeed belong together, but now I just assume he will think I have lost my mind completely so I let it be. Though slightly resentful these things do not happen to him. Why? Guess some questions have no answers. Past lives and karmic ties, do you want to cut them someone asked me. No, I replied then quickly asked since we aren’t together in this life does this mean I have to go through this shit again in my next.
I let him go, I have a vision that I will see him one day at Wholefoods and he will have found a lighter love, someone you can place in that pretty little Tiffanys box and that feeling will pass between us, the feeling of being nothing and everything at the same time.

~ From the deepest desires often come the deadliest hate-Socrates

Pluto Square Sun
Keywords:
Mesmerizing, deep, dark, compulsive, intense, beautiful

I see right through you~ Nicki Minaj

Pluto conjunct moon
KEYWORDS
Emotionally intense, jealousy, possessive, transparency, unconscious needs fulfilled, karmic, healing of moons emotional wounds, telepathy, psychic connection

Shallow sorrows and shallow loves live on. The loves and sorrows that are great are destroyed by their own plenitude `Oscar Wilde

Pluto inconjunct Mercury
KEYWORDS
Unexpected heavy conversations, under a light, released mental blocks, opening of the mind

Maybe that’s what happens when a tornado meets a volcano All I know is I love you too much to walk away~ Eminem

Pluto Opposition Mars
KEYWORDS
Angry sex, control, arguments, aggression, love the way you lie, obsession


So Ill watch your life in pictures like I use to watch you sleep and I will feel you forget me like I use to feel you breathe~ Taylor Swift

Pluto Opposition Venus
KEYWORDS
Odd attraction, unrequited love, compulsive, repulsive, strongest passion, you cannot be friends afterwards, intensity, defines everything, intoxicating

Pluto Trine Jupiter
KEYWORDS
Telepathy, transformation, transcendence, spiritual ties

You are like a deep deep ocean~

Pluto trine Ascendant
KEYWORDS
help one another forget your blues, trust one another, deep understanding, pure attraction. Really “getting” one another, dancing, music, love

My breaking heart and I agree that you and I could never be so with my best my very best…I set you free

A Dedication to a Plutonic Love

Published July 1, 2011 by starsmoonandsun

There is platonic love based on friendship and respect that is non sexual in nature & then their is plutonic love! Huge difference! Plutonian love is everything; it is all encompassing. It rules love, hate, sex, passion, anger, jealousy, and transformation. Like a pendulum swinging from one extreme to the next with only one clear indication: afterwards you will never be the same.
I consider myself to be plutonian by nature Sun in the 2 nd decan of Cancer ruled by Scorpio, Moon in Aries (mars the lower octave of Pluto) with Uranus & Pluto natal in the 8th house. I’ve always been interested in astrology on a superficial level (oh yes Libra & Aquarius are compatible blah blah). After experiencing plutonic love I found myself delving head first into synastry in typical Pluto fashion, I yearned to control the outcome and when I couldn’t I wanted to know why. Why didn’t we work out?! Why wasn’t the feeling mutual? Why didn’t he just abandon his entire life as he knew it & come linger with me in the deep end of the ocean? Ridiculous, I know but Pluto wants what it wants!
There are entire sights dedicated to Pluto contacts in synastry, properly equipped with warning labels. They offer claims that Pluto always has the upper hand & the planet person feels it more. I don’t know about that. All I know is I’m forever changed. Plutonic love isn’t black and white; it holds many shades of gray. It isn’t the type of amore you place in a nice neat box & wrap with a pretty pink ribbon. It unearths all that is hidden perhaps even from yourself. I feel okay at the present moment; very much in control (very plutonian) I will not let this feeling overrule my head nor my life. I don’t cry, I let it go. I let him go though at times I feel haunted. As though his energy is pulling me in and somehow it seeps into my world just when I’m going about a normal day. I tell my friends he stalks my mind. I can’t quite reconcile the difference between fate and coincidence, recently having received a piece of junk mail for him at my house, stuck to my mail. Another time while at line in a bookstore 2 people waiting in front of me were discussing a party he is hosting. I joke with my friends and tell them I’m going to call 911 the next time this happens
911 whats your emergency?
Uh I would like to report a drive by sighting?
Everyone talks about Pluto opposition Venus like they are living in there own personal hell. I wonder is there anybody out there that has had Pluto aspecting every single planet of another persons chart like I have? From the Sun to the moon to mercury, to Venus and mars, Uranus, Saturn Neptune and Chiron, ascendant and the midheaven. I’m beginning to wonder if I should start a support group. Though perhaps I should be happy I didn’t know him longer.
I use to contact him when these silly things happened, in a thinly vailed attempt to get him to realize we did indeed belong together, but now I just assume he will think I have lost my mind completely so I let it be. Though slightly resentful these things do not happen to him. Why? Guess some questions have no answers. Past lives and karmic ties, do you want to cut them someone asked me. No, I replied then quickly asked since we aren’t together in this life does this mean I have to go through this shit again in my next.
I let him go, I have a vision that I will see him one day at Wholefoods and he will have found a lighter love, someone you can place in that pretty little Tiffanys box and that feeling will pass between us, the feeling of being nothing and everything at the same time.

~ From the deepest desires often come the deadliest hate-Socrates

Pluto Square Sun
Keywords:
Mesmerizing, deep, dark, compulsive, intense, beautiful

I see right through you~ Nicki Minaj

Pluto conjunct moon
KEYWORDS
Emotionally intense, jealousy, possessive, transparency, unconscious needs fulfilled, karmic, healing of moons emotional wounds, telepathy, psychic connection

Shallow sorrows and shallow loves live on. The loves and sorrows that are great are destroyed by their own plenitude `Oscar Wilde

Pluto inconjunct Mercury
KEYWORDS
Unexpected heavy conversations, under a light, released mental blocks, opening of the mind

Maybe that’s what happens when a tornado meets a volcano All I know is I love you too much to walk away~ Eminem

Pluto Opposition Mars
KEYWORDS
Angry sex, control, arguments, aggression, love the way you lie, obsession


So Ill watch your life in pictures like I use to watch you sleep and I will feel you forget me like I use to feel you breathe~ Taylor Swift

Pluto Opposition Venus
KEYWORDS
Odd attraction, unrequited love, compulsive, repulsive, strongest passion, you cannot be friends afterwards, intensity, defines everything, intoxicating

Pluto Trine Jupiter
KEYWORDS
Telepathy, transformation, transcendence, spiritual ties

You are like a deep deep ocean~

Pluto trine Ascendant
KEYWORDS
help one another forget your blues, trust one another, deep understanding, pure attraction. Really “getting” one another, dancing, music, love

My breaking heart and I agree that you and I could never be so with my best my very best…I set you free

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