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Saturn Transiting 8th House, Show Me The Money

Published November 26, 2011 by starsmoonandsun

Saturn entered my 8th house over a year ago and I cannot wait for him to make his way out! Having Pluto and Uranus in my natal 8th house I’m accustomed to sudden change, introspection, seeking the truth and depths of situations. But Saturn in 8th house squaring my sun and opposing my moon has been dreadful. Life has been difficult to say the very least. The 8th house rules death, other people’s money, sex not in a love affair fun sort of way like the 5th house, but more of a plutonian type. It’s hidden, scandalous, and obsessive. They say where there is Saturn there is karma to be worked off, needless to say I have been working my ass off. I’m not the same as I was before. I feel like an orange, peeling a layer and another layer and as I shed my skin I just long to get to the juicy part. The good part, a better part of me.

Some Lessons of Saturn in 8th house

The House of Other Peoples Money

Saturn Transiting the 8th house often indicates a lack of help in finances. It rules the money of other people. The 2nd house is the money you earn. Saturn transiting the 8th house gives you a feeling of having to do everything on your own. Feeling utterly overwhelmed . You can have enough money, but some how it isn’t enough and you will find people seldom want to help you while Saturn is in your 8th house. I must admit money has never played a bigger part in my life than in this year. I have worked since I was 14; I have traveled to Europe throughout the Caribbean and across the US on my own merit, putting myself through college and saving up to purchase my own home. Natal Saturn in the 6th house indicates everything I acquire is via my own effort. To be frank I have little regard or respect for people who simply have things handed to them. That being said this year has been one obstacle after another, financial road blocks and major setbacks. I was approved for a mortgage, but denied by a condo board, I’ve been through lost applications, hidden fees, flip taxes oh my! It has taken a toll on my being and there have been many nights I have thrown myself a pity party. Why me? Why is this happening? Recently I met a depressed former love for drinks (he has Saturn transiting his 7th YIKES); I said you have the house, the cars, the children and I feel like I have nothing. He was quick to assure me that money doesn’t equate happiness and sometimes a “pretty picture” Is simply that. A picture not a reality. Saturn lesson number 1; all that glitters isn’t gold. This one is going to take a while.

Lessons of Saturn

The House of Sharing & Intimacy

Natally most of my planets fall below the horizon, the focus on my stuff (Moon in 2nd house), My way of thinking (Mars in the 3rd house) my neighbors (Venus in 3rd house), my house & my roots (Jupiter in 4th house), My love affairs & my creative abilities (Sun in 5th house) my job (Mercury in the 6th house) and my health habits (Saturn in 6th house). Me Me Me! Saturn transiting my 8th house has changed the way in which I see relationships. Making me realize in order for any relationship to work there has to be a 50/50 give and take.Thinking in terms of “us” not how will this effect me. With an Aries moon it is always “me first”. It has completely gutted the way in which I relate to the people around me. Coming face to face with my own inadequacies, learning that people are not perfect. No one is perfect. After a series of events that occurred leaving me devastated I was forced to go to others for help, lean on others for support and assistance. I’m the type of person that prefers to handle things alone, I rarely ask for favors but that has simply not been the case the last year or so. As I have had to depend on others to pick me up and dust me off when the purchase of my home fell through and a 100 other things went wrong. I feel as though I’m stretching and growing inside, but as painful as it has been I believe at the end of this transit, I will view it as a cathartic process.

Lessons of Saturn

Obsessions, Dark Love, Sex

Saturn in the 8th house will bring you face to face with your inner fears, the things you deny, perhaps haven’t even admitted to yourself. If you’re generally possessive in love it will bring you face to face with a love you cannot possess. Controlling tendencies, Saturn in the 8th house will bring relationships beyond control. It will drag to the surface all that lies beneath, pulling out your heart and stomping on the very fragment of your being while doing so. One quote that comes to mind:

You will encounter people who will serve as mirrors, mirroring back to you all that you lack. Circumstances that bring out your worst tendencies. Its painful. But you can use these times to grow and build on them. Release old behaviors that no longer serve you.

Lessons of Saturn

Death

Thankfully no one I know has died, growing up with Pluto in the 8th house I’m accustomed to those I love dying…. Prematurely. I still have a year left. At this rate; fingers crossed. Perhaps more so I feel as though a part of me is passing away. There is the me before the Saturn transit blissfully unaware of so many things. I have come to know the darkest parts of me, what motivates me, what renders me helpless, what I yearn for….I feel the past far beneath me as I attempt to climb up from nothingness. It is the end of an era. That is the only way in which I can describe it. Funny enough unbeknownst to me my numerological year is Year number 9. Entitled the end of an era. It’s a year of completion. Paying Karmic debts.

Saturn Lessons

Where you find Saturn, you will find Karmic Debts

They say Saturn Transiting your 8th house is a time to settle the Karmic Debt for the emotional choices you have made earlier in life. Am I paid up yet?? There is me BS and AS Before Saturn and After Saturn transiting my 8th house. It has been painful and dark. I feel as though all I hoped for did not manifest. My dreams remain just that dreams. I have been hurt and I have been angry and above all I have experienced disappointment in love and in life. However I can see with 20/20 vision mistakes I have made. I’m learning the lessons of Saturn, to depend on people….but ah-ha be careful which people you depend on. No one is perfect. Love sometimes hurts and sometimes its beautiful. God willing you will be denied something or someone because someone or something GREATER is waiting. And most importantly I think I have learned that you have to live life in your own time, do things at your own pace and although I believe in fate something bigger than all of us is in charge. I have to give up my need to control everything. Breathe. Exhale. Look for the lessons because if you don’t get it the first time, it will come around a 2nd time. Forgive those that disappoint you because to wake up angry every day defeats YOU! Let go let life take you where ever it decides. Saturn transiting your 8th house demands you let go….

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Composite Chart

Published November 21, 2011 by starsmoonandsun

If synastry shows the relationship potential, if you will be attracted to one another, how you relate to each other than the Composite Chart shows how the relationship will play out. People may have excellent synastry but a more challenging composite and vice versa. A composite chart can be read much like a natal chart. Robert Hand outlined in his book Planets in Composite what takes precedence when analyzing these charts:

·Strong house emphasis

·Look at the placement of the sun and moon as they represent masculine and feminine energy

·Also look how the sun and moon connect, are they squaring one another, opposing one another or not connecting at all

·Look for Venus and Mars as these planets indicate sex and romance

·Always look at the Angels 1,4,7,10 as the planets there are strongest

·Look at Saturn, it will show where there is weakness and strength

The Ex-Files

I have an ex that often calls me, I broke up with him for practical reasons, shortly after he married a “practical” older woman, and shortly after I regretted ever breaking up with him. He regrets getting married stating he wishes she were me and I confess I have never found anyone like him and here we are 3 years, one plutonic love and him one child later. We both concede if we could do it again we would have stayed together. But you can only know what you know at the time.…Ive decided to take a look at our Composite Chart to see what exactly are these ties that bind

The Composite First House:

The Composite First House is much like the Natal 1st House; it is the face by which the world sees you only this time as a couple. According to Robert Hand a strong 1st house can indicate all show and no substance. However Robert Hand also suggests regardless a strong 1st house indicates the relationship will have a great effect on both partners.

Our Composite Ascendent is in Pisces, this makes for a compassionate, sympathetic relationship where the 2 people can tend to idealize one another and gloss over real issues. Venus in Pisces is dreamy and intuitive in the first house conjuncting the Ascendent it indicates we are a natural complement. True Love. Being strongly attracted to one another at first sight without knowing why. The longer you know one another the more you like each other. Hand states this relationship is friendly, offers forgiveness and have come together for a creative purpose.

In my own experience I have to say attraction was instant, I only saw him from behind and found him irresistible. Only to have him turn around and realize we had been friends when we were small children. Our adjustments toward one another were minimal as we liked each other exactly for who we were. I think our relationship with all of its ups and downs was often viewed with a certain Venusian charm, as people always wanted to talk with and be around us. We had an energy when combined was greater than either of us have being alone. People often told us “we looked perfect together” We became exclusive after 2 dates and 3 weeks in he confessed his love and I was singing to him You Light up My Life before bed. That is Venus in the first house

Composite Mercury in the First house

Composite Mercury indicates the mental activity between the couple, do they have a mental understanding.Composite Mercury in the first house means you like speaking with one another. The way of thinking is similar in the first house. I wouldn’t necessarily say there was a depth to conversations, that is more of a Mercury in the fourth house, but communication always flowed easily

The Composite Second House

The Composite 2nd house is all about what you value. These can be tangible items such as property, finances or values in terms of ideas and philosophy.

Composite Sun in Taurus in the 2nd house is far from my favorite. It’s like a double whammy, the 2nd house is already naturally governed by Taurus . Venus in the 1st house is no doubt what brought us together, and here in the 2nd house lies the reason for my “practical departure” The bright Taurus Sun shining on values and finances. Taurus’ keyword is: I have. To a Taurus Sun “stuff” It is important. Taurus can be overindulging. This position of the sun is best for business partnerships where you acquire material assets. As per Robert Hand in a personal relationship, you will want to acquire real estate together. This location of the composite Sun can manifest in 2 ways making your personal and philosophical values a priority or material items. Ours turned out to be the latter. Our emotional values were the same, so there wasn’t any conflict there. He was especially family oriented, kind and giving. It was the financial aspect. We both wanted more “stuff” He complained I was making him broke and I complained he wasnt working hard enough .Ordinarily I’m quite disinterested in finances, I certainly do not want them to be the focal point of my life, but when the 2 of us came together, they were an issue. Overall what we wanted to spend money on was different. Who was going to handle the finances was a concern. We were at odds over work ethic. How ironic that he has now married WAY up and he told me he has never been so unhappy or emotionally unfulfilled. I have been single for a while, I have dated men with that check list of stuff, but I miss the non tangible items, the way he flew to get a first aid kit if I so much as had a paper cut, the holding the door open, ordering my dinner, making me soup when I’m sick. Never mind the passion!

Composite Jupiter is in the 2nd house, Jupiter’s placement tells you where you go overboard and where you are naturally lucky. According to Hand a couple with Composite Jupiter in the 2nd house will have enough of what they want. However it can indicate a couple that is overly materialistic, that you sacrifice other important matters for wealth…hence here we are.

The Composite Third House

The Composite 3rd House is like the natal 3rd house communication, siblings, relatives, and short trips.

Mars the planet of war in the house of communication means lots of passionate disagreements. Being that composite mars is in Gemini it is my belief these arguments are not long-lasting as Gemini wants to move on to the next agenda. Hand did point out that with Mars being here and the 3rd house also ruling relatives, the couples fighting will affect their relationship with their family and immediate surroundings.

The Composite 4th House

The Composite 4th house signifies the depths of the relationship and yes real estate, home and roots. And here in the 4th house naturally ruled by the moon is our Cancer Moon Keywords I feel. I like to say home is where the heart is or in this case Home is where the moon is. There is a dependency with a 4th house moon, instinctive desire to nurture one another. similar background can be helpful to this placement so you can naturally understand where each of you are coming from. Robert Hand states this is an excellent placement for marriage by “the strong sense of sharing it induces”. Emotional security is offered here. 4th house placements remind me of a quote by Jennifer Lopez while discussing Marc Anthony, she stated how they had similar backgrounds and “they had that short hand”. That is 4th house moon or venus in my opinion.

The Composite 5th House

The Composite 5th house is similar to the natal 5th house, it oversees children, gambling, and creative expression.

And here in the house of fun we have dreadful Saturn. Ordinarily I would run like hell from a 5th house Saturn, I m loud and openly expressive and the normal obvious assumption would be this relationship would stifle me. There is so much literature out there stating Saturn in the 5th implies heavy obligations, a relationship that lack spontaneity blah blah, That is not the case here as our relationship was always interesting and exciting, we traveled, hosted Margarita nights went out to dinner often. We had a lot of fun. I will say that Saturn in the 5th house often means the couple is unlikely to have children. In my case, I did not wish to have children with this particular man. He was the type of man you rode through life with and children were simply not apart of that equation . And there is my explanation for Saturn in the 5th house. If however you do want children I would avoid this placement.

Composite 6th house is the house of responsibility. How dreadful. Look to see what planets falls there to see where your obligations lie.

Composite 7th house is your relationship to one another. And there is Pluto. Packing Punch Pluto who revolutionizes everything he touches. This is a powerful relationship that has a great impact on both parties. It is important to work together as a unit as per Hand.You can work together to achieve great things or work against one another attempting to dominate one another.

The Composite 8th House

The Composite 8th house is different from the natal house, in the natal chart the 8th house represents your spouses finances. In Composite it is still the house of “other people’s money” Money outside of the relationship as well as transformation. Uranus the planet of sudden change in the house of transformation and finances. As per Robert Hand, sudden change can happen, unpredictable events and it is best to roll with them rather than develop a rigid point of view. Also he states this aspect shows concern over handling money or that neither of the couple has a desire to handle finances which can thus lead to arguments. Hmm a recurring theme here! I have 8th house nataly so I enjoy a bit of a bumpy ride and sudden changes. His sun conjuncts my ascendant in Aquarius so I would say we are naturally inclined to sudden change. Sometimes you have to look at the entire picture, synastry, natal and composite.

The Composite 9th

The Composite 9th house is similar to the natal 9th as it represents the “higher mind” beyond the day-to-day, your broader more philosphical mind. Neptune rules psychic abilities, confusion, escapism and spirituality. Neptune in the 9th according to Hand shows an interest in the mystical and psychic matters. We share the same views; both believe in fate, one time I was burning sage and doing a moon ritual only for him to come home with sage and a crystal in his pocket. How random, but definitely like-minded. Neptune in the 9th is also an indication that as a unit you do not view the world as it is. There is a certain seeing through rose-colored glasses.

The Composite 10th house represents the couples life direction. On a personal level I’m not to interested in the 10th house. It bores me. It is the highest point in the chart and often indicates your direction, your goals, it rules status and reputation.

The Composite 11th house is the house of hopes, friends and wishes. Planets placed here will show if you share the same ideals, obviously no planets are placed here I have however analyzed a chart where Saturn was in the 11th. Oh no Saturn restricts whatever it touches, this very well may symbolize a lack of friendship and hopes and wishes that never will materialize.

The Composite 12th House symbolizes all that is hidden and repressed with in one another. I knew someone with Uranus in the 12th house, I always felt like trapped inside this very conservative man was a rebel just dying to be released. Strong 12th house not recommended for marriage

In Conclusion Composite Charts can point out some issues a couple is having that they are really perhaps unaware of. You can take a step back for a moment and ask yourself, is it worth it. Or maybe you will have one of those Ah-ha moments. I surely did…a little late perhaps. But in the words of Drake: Better late than never though never late is better;) We are all learning our lessons in our own time.

A collection of quotes on Fate and Destiny

Published November 11, 2011 by starsmoonandsun

I’m unsure as to why that poem by EE Cummings comes to mind when I think of fate, perhaps it’s the line: “here is the deepest secret nobody knows”, after all none of know why events unfold in a certain fashion. And often we can only understand events years after they have passed, life must be lived forward but is understood backwards. In retrospect. I have decided that there is no such thing as coincidence and that fate presents you with many roads and various open doors, and I will keep an open heart toward fated encounters that are like flashing signals telling you which way to go while baring in mind that it is our own free will that enables us to  chose our own destiny, it is up to us to decide which door to walk through and which to close. With that being said, in love it takes two believers in fate to share the same road, known as life; only when two souls believe will they unite and share destiny. Here I have compiled a list of quotes on fate and destiny.

Fate never knocks on the wrong door dear, You just may not be ready to answer~Sarakee Rosenberg

 

 

 

Never believe fate is more than the condensation of childhood~ Rainer Marie Rilke

 

 

Coincidence is the word we use when we can’t see the levers and pulleys~Emma Bull

 

 

Destiny is what you are suppose to do in life. Fate is what kicks you in the ass to do it~Henry Miller

 

A person often meets his destiny on the road he took to avoid it~Jean de la Fontaine

 

 

Life is like a game of cards. The hand that is delt represents your determinisim, the way you play it is free will~Jawaharal Nehru

 

It is the soul’s duty yo be loyal to its own desires. It must abandon itself to master its passion~ Rebecca West

 

There is no such thing as chance, and what seems to us merest accident springs from the deepest source of destiny

Every man has his own destiny, the only imperative is to follow it, to accept it no matter where it leads him

 

 

If you do something once, people will call it an accident. If you do it twice they will call it a coincidence, But do it a third time and you have just proven it is natural law~ Grace Murray Hopper

 

Once is happenstance, Twice is a coincidence Three Times is enemy action~ Auric Goldfinger

 

The More Frequently one uses the word coincidence to explain bizarre hapenings the more obvious it becomes that one is not seeking but evading the real explanation~ Robert Shea

 

When you live your  life with an apprectiation of coincidences & their meanings you connect with the underlying field of infinate possibilities~ Deepak Chopra

 

I am a firm believer in fate. That no matter what we feel or what we may think we want or even what’s best for us, that it is all predetermined. And most importantly, fate is completely out of our hands. Therefore, I decided long ago to let life happen as it happens. I also strongly believe that we are all here for a reason, something to be learned, and by simply letting life take its course than we shall learn what that is. WANDA F. ROSS

Karmic Ties

Published October 13, 2011 by starsmoonandsun

I have written about Free Will Astrology, Plutonic love and the fact that I am on astrological Journey. Truth be told I’m always looking, searching and as someone once told me, over thinking. I do not believe in coincidence and have wrestled with the concept of why certain things happen. Why? The Why always haunts me. It always has, since my father died when I was 5; for as long as I can remember I have always questioned life. Questioned God? Questioned what is meant to be? If we take Route A or Route B do we end up in the same place when our lives are complete.

Lately I have been overrun with why, why is it I keep seeing someone I do not wish to see. If you read my entry on Plutonic Love, I use to believe we were destined. That we belonged together, seriously what else was I too think….I realized I was wrong the day he got married to someone else. The day out of the 841 Hotels in New York City he booked his wedding block at my hotel. I found out 3 days prior to their arrival when I attempted to check in another guest but typed in the wrong name. And there they were; his name 13 times, I could not breathe. I gasped for air, felt as though I had been punched in the stomach and had to leave immediately and console myself in a bottle of Ciroc Vodka. Why was this happening?

I will never have the answer as to why he chose my place of employment, the way I see it if he did it intentionally he is nothing short of cruel and if he didn’t think of me at all…well quite frankly that is WORSE. I would rather be loved or hated, indifference is nothing I aspire to & rarely do I inspire indifference in people, I blame that on my Sun square Pluto. Love me or hate me but never in between. Needless to say I called him in a panic, he informed me in fact that he was not the one to pick the hotel and it was all a coincidence. There goes that word again, thrown around so lightly. How could I ever have believed he was “the one”. 10 days later after having dusted myself off, seeking no solace that a natural disaster ruined his wedding( no shock here it was the worst day in the entire year to get hitched astroligically speaking) I owned up to my own bouts of delusion and accepted that we were not meant to be, only to pull up to the front of my house to see him with wife in tow. His dogs’ sad face at my window. My friends would joke the next day and label me “the dog whisperer”. Ah but had I been stuck at a traffic light a little longer, had someone stopped to ask me 1 simple question before leaving work I may have never seen them, but I did. I laughed at the absurdity of it all and thought had we still remained friendly he would indeed tell me, “what a coincidence”.

Karmic Ties in astrology appear to be unbreakable, for better or worse. Why am I the only recipient of this I have yet to figure out. I do know that I have changed my route on the way to work, have altered where I go in attempt to avoid him….but there are still times I see him. We are strangers now, Imagine. Just strangers. As I yearn to cut all ties a quote comes to mind: You often meet your destiny on the road you took to avoid it. Karmic ties are unavoidable and I have little to no hope of avoiding him.

In synastry the moons nodes coming in contact with another person’s moon often indicate “star crossed lovers” or “Romeo and Juliet” type of contacts. When an outer planet Saturn, Neptune or Pluto makes contact with another person’s Personal Planet (Moon, Mars Venus, Mercury) this is also Karmic. There are various degrees and each Karmic tie is different. According to www.caféastrology.com Pluto ties which we had many of “suggest a theme of domination, issues of power, betrayal, and dependence”. Presently I feel very much betrayed, though I’m not sure by whom either him or the universe.

I recently treated myself to a Reiki healing session, a pretty young woman lay her hands over me as visions danced around my head, wild horses, this small pretend horse my father bought me as a child, I was flying above this man’s house, twirling and dancing….The Reiki healer advised me “my chakras to the past were now closed” and yet I saw him the very next day, just driving by a smile plastered on his face. It didn’t hurt like it use to, I simply thought What the f***! I sought council through Tarot Card Readers, an intuitive, a psychic, an astrologer and I-ching reading…you name it and I have done it. I feel like the little boy in the Movie Hereafter with Matt Damon, I just wanted the answer, I wanted “the why”? And every single one advised me: the both of you share energy, you have lived many lifetimes together. The last woman said, “isn’t it nice to know that some connections are everlasting”, a sweet grin plastered on her face. Uh-nope.

I was advised to not speak about him, thoughts become words, words become actions and actions become things. And this energy is a living thing. This will be my last entry about him, I have done all I can to cut the ties, meditation, yoga, reiki and for once in my life I have decided I may never get what the lesson is here and I may never know why this happened but I will just accept it. I must accept it, that I may never have the “why” And as my dear friend said, when you stop caring you will not be in tuned to it, you wont ask WHY when he drives by……. because you won’t see him at all.

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