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Ruler of the 1st in the 12th house; Edward Snowden and Julian Assange

Published December 27, 2016 by starsmoonandsun


I am not comparing these men to one another I am comparing birth charts***

I watched the movie Snowden last night I confess I really didn’t know much about him.  I am not sure how I felt after the movie….let me retract that I know exactly how I felt:  I think if you take a job working for the CIA you take all the shady shit that comes with it. The Government is dirty business and to think otherwise I suppose either made him naive or just very idealistic. Naturally I ran his natal chart along side with Julian Assange and Chelsea Manning who happened to pop up (we do not have a birth time for Manning Assange Birth time is questionable) on an astrological article on whistle blowers. I thought it was interesting that they all have Natal Moon in Scorpio; planets in Scorpio are known for secrecy and hidden agendas, they never reveal their feelings or show their hand. They are known for their investigative practices and natural inclination to distrust others.

Donna Cunningham writes in her book “The Moon in Your Life” about the Scorpio moon individual “the world is out to get you -never let yourself be weak, never lose your cool,  always be on top of any situation”

Scorpio moon loves holding all the cards, having all the information. I was raised by a Scorpio moon the mantra was never let them see you cry and never write anything down you wouldnt want anyone else to read.

But what struck me the most was that both Snowden and Assange have the ruler of the 1st in the 12th house (if the birth time on these charts are indeed correct) Rulerships are often overlooked in astrology and yet they are very important.


A house is never empty in astrology, you always have a sign on the cusp so while I have no planets in my first house Aquarius is rising this means Uranus is the ruler of my 1st house this is also known as my chart ruler Uranus is placed in my 8th house so I embody a Pluto/Scorpio like energy since the 8th house governs; sex, death and taxes. I always feel like parts of me are dying and I am continuously being reborn. This house also governs “occult” and here I am no explanation needed 


Sometimes we have many chart rulers I for instance have Pisces intercepted so Neptune is also my chart ruler as is Jupiter (traditional ruler of Pisces)  and Saturn since Saturn is the traditional ruler of Aquarius

So all in all I have 4 chart rulers

  1. Jupiter
  2. Neptune
  3. Uranus
  4. Saturn

My Astrologer said this adds to a more complicated personality, I certainly cannot disagree though personally I mostly identify with Uranus in the 8th and Neptune in the 10th

You can do this with all of the houses for instance Cancer rules my 6th house this house governs work, your day to day activities with Cancer as the ruler you can assume I work nights (the moon) I work with the public (moon rules the public) It is hard for me to establish a routine (Moon fluctuates daily)  to look further into this we can see where the ruler of Cancer (the moon); is placed; the moon is placed in my 2nd house the 2nd house rules the money you earn I assure you I only work for the money. I have no attachment to my job other than that. I do not derive any sense of identify from my job like other people do it is simply a means to an end.

Here are some cheat sheets for houses and rulerships

I wrote about Paris Jackson here who is 12th house heavy ( as another variation of 12th house Neptunian energy)

Paris Jackson Natal Chart

And I wrote about the heavy Neptunian influenced now deceased Google Exec Forrest Hayes Here

Kiss of Death & Google Exec

I tend to concentrate on the shadow aspects that come with 12th house/Pisces/Neptune energy they govern addictions, fantasy, illusion and what you don’t see clearly

Venus in the 12th, -secret affairs

Moon in the 12th-Mother with addiction or it could be a mother that died young

Sun in the 12th house can be an unknown father or men may be the cause of your own undoing

Anything Neptunian/Pisces/ 12th house I always caution the person about self undoing behaviors, about addiction, about mental illness because these are the shadow sides of planets placed here  but I also know a Psychiatrist with planets in the 12th house that works in a prison. Astrology isn’t one stop shopping so the influence of the placement may vary-

Also please do remember you have your entire life to live out the natal chart! You may not be an addict today  but can you say you will never be  one? You may not have an affair now but you never know where you will be 15 years from now

Edward Snowden and Julian Assange

The first thing I noticed when looking at Edward Snowden and Julian Assange chart was that they both have the ruler of the 1st (the chart ruler) placed in the 12th house.

Snowden’s chart ruler is Mercury and Assange is Jupiter and they are both placed in the 12th house the 12th house is naturally ruled by Pisces. The 12th house governs Psychiatric facilities, self undoing, prisons, the afterlife, solitude, secret societies and what you don’t see.

When the ruler of the 1st is placed in the 12th you can work in secret. Assage and Snowden also have Neptune in hard aspect to personal planets as did Forrest Hayes (see article above) when you are not an addict, when you are not a musician or an artist, a psychiatrist, an inmate, you very well can work in secret and behind the scenes. The 12th house also rules secret organizations, things that are done in private, things done behind the scenes, underground movements etc

With Mercury being Snowdens ruling planet in the 12th and Mercury being the messsanger (his Merucry is also in sign of rulership Gemini)  Snowdens leaks were Mercurial in nature; secret communications, text messages, emails, phone calls etc

Where as Julian Assange ruling planet is Jupiter that placed in the 12th house Jupiter governs publishing and clearly he has Wikileakes where he publishes (Jupiter) private or secret (12th house) information. Assange according to Wikipedia worked with a secret hacking group or began one.

The 12th house also governs self sacrifice I will say that with the ruler of the 1st being placed in the 12th you may be willing to sacrifice yourself for a greater cause.

My astrology instructor once told me “Aquarius will fight for the cause but Pisces will die for the cause”

I have to believe that Snowden and Assange must have felt called to do what they have done on a higher level, perhaps on a soul level. That’s Pisces/Neptune/12th house too


Paris Jackson and her 12th house sorrow

Published June 10, 2013 by starsmoonandsun

Paris Jasckson Natal Chart Provided by

Paris Jasckson Natal Chart Provided by


I have to be honest when I do a reading for someone and I see they have any personal planets never mind several planets in the natal 12th house I m usually in for a difficult time. This can happen with merely the Sun alone. The 12th house rules self undoing or the manner in which people betray themselves. People are often unaware of the energies that are manifesting in the 12th house, they turn a blind eye and are unable to see it or identify with it. For instance the Sun in the 12th house often indicates some confusion surrounding the father or at the other end of the spectrum glamorizing your father, putting him on some Christ like pedestal. The Sun rules the men in our lives but when I have asked someone with the Sun in the 12th house how was your male parental relationship they will say fine and often later reveal that they haven’t seen him since they were 10 and he lives in another country. The 12th house rules things you don’t see clearly or cannot touch with your hand; you can’t grab a hold of it. Religion and dreams, things we turn a blind eye too, things we don’t want to admit to ourselves. The 12th house also rules prisons, psychiatric facilities, sorrow, and confinement. If you meet someone with a moon in the 12th house you will find sorrow surrounding the mother, Venus in the 12th house someone that feels unworthy of love so they date married individuals. Covert emotions and clandestine affairs. The 12th house is complicated; it holds planets that represent energies we mask from others as well as ourselves. I’ve met quite a few eccentric types that wished to assimilate into society that had Uranus in the 12th house. Uranus rules individuality, where we go against the grain but place it in the 12th house and the individual hides the parts of themselves that make them unique. What does this have to do with Paris Jackson? She has the Sun, Mars, Mercury and Saturn gathered in the 12th house. Her natal Mercury is in retrograde motion indicating she often has difficulty in expressing herself add to this the nature of the 12th house and thoughts become internalized perhaps her mind is heavy and she feel she has no one to talk too, no one understands her. Her natal Sun in aggressive Aries becomes turned inward, inward aggression, hidden impulsiveness, Paris also has Mars in the 12th house, Mars is the manner in which we assert ourselves often those with Mars in the 12th house have an immensely difficult time asserting themselves or they have misplaced anger; you’re mad at your grandmother so you yell at a friend, you’re upset with a friend so you become angry with yourself. It is essential that people with 12th house planets consciously remain aware, maintain inner dialog and conduct conversations with other people and be open to feedback. I hope she finds the appropriate medical attention or perhaps develops a relationship with her mother. The moon in her natal chart is a stand alone; the only planet in a water sign and its sign of rulership; Cancer. The need for her mom is strong and with that loose opposition to Neptune planet of confusion her maternal figure is unclear. Paris Jackson is a sensitive soul that is very piscerean like with her father being tucked away in the 12th house and her mother figure being somewhat elusive she will likely turn to alcohol, drugs, cutting and other escapism like tendencies. The 12th house like Pisces and other strong Neptunian influences play out victim savior themes throughout their lives, eager to save or be saved. I’m keeping her in my thoughts. Do you have any planets in the 12th house? Are they working for you or against you?

Famous People with 12th house Suns;
• Jodi Foster How much is there we really don’t know about her?
• Gandhi-Need I say more-religious themes
• Johnny Cash, Janis Joplin, Jimmy Hendrix all 12th house suns with addiction tendencies
• Caroline Kennedy Her father JFK was assassinated when she was a small child
• Julian Lennon son of legend John Lennon, I cant imagine the sorrow that exists there

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