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You can not make some travel on a path of self discovery if their soul isnt ready to leave where they are

Published December 28, 2016 by starsmoonandsun

I have been drawn to men draped in melancholy for quite some time I am beginning to think this has to do with my Saturn in the 7th house this isn’t exactly attracting the most joyous of partners  This placement often indicates marrying an older and colder partner. Ah it is what it is I suppose they can be older and they certainly do not have to be light but as of 2017 they will need to be happy.

You think that you can save them, you think that you can show them, you think that you can heal them but it never works that way.

I am telling you on your lengthy lists of what you seek in a partner you better put on the top of the list

  1. Happy
  2. Healthy

My Plutonic love-who this blog is written in dedication too- was heavy, depressed, his energy was thick. I would spend one night with him and sleep for days afterward. We were connected by etheric cords from navel chakra to navel chakra. He would drain me of my life force, that’s how we were connected. I was his source of power, maybe his source of light .img_1497img_1496img_1494 This is a man that has anything and everything you could possibly desire but he was perpetually sad. He has Sun Square Saturn and Chiron loosely conjunct his Sun and Mercury.

Saturn in aspect to planets will restrict and suppress the planets natural expression. Sun/Saturn often represents a father issue, perhaps inheriting paternal depression; other people have an absent father (Suri Cruise) or a general feeling of not being able to live up to the father.The identity (the Sun) is restricted. This placement is often found in millionaires as they use accomplishment and work (Saturn) to fill themselves (sun). Chiron on the Sun indicates a core wounding with in the sense of self. The sun is your identity, your self-expression, so here there may be a wound surrounding your sense of self. Not feeling good enough, you may feel like a part of you in missing, you may feel empty –Clearly these being the harsher manifestations

I also dated a crazy Gemini,  he was Saturian as well with his natal Moon placed in Capricorn this is common in people who are depressed and often found in alcoholics He had many addictions from gambling to cocaine but he will forever be one of my favorite people in the world. For all of his bad habits he was honest about all of them and never professed to be anything other than who he was.

Though I will say addiction is NOT who you are it is something you do that covers up who you are, that drowns out the voice of who you are. Addiction will fill you with lies about who you are but I will save that post for another day.

He also had Venus conjunct Saturn; blocks to love, suppressed feelings of love, past hurts that are difficult to get beyond in matters  of the heart.And as of late- the man who will culminate this lesson for me since I didn’t get it the first 10 times…well he is a Capricorn rising (Chart ruler is Saturn) I will tell you when I first saw him I thought well isn’t this a beautiful creature ( His Neptune opposes my Mars and Venus) he looked like a man that was oblivious to how beautiful he was (Natal Chiron square Ascendant exact, this shows a wound surrounding the way you look ) I remember thinking this man looks like he forgot the real meaning of life. He looks like he forgot what love feels like (he has Natal Saturn opposite Venus, blocks to love, chooses work over love, being closed to love). It never occurred to me that maybe he didn’t want to know what love was, maybe he didnt want to remember. Maybe he prefered it this way, life this way. Maybe thats why he keeps a door of revolving women, if you keep the rotation going you dont have to worry about anyone getting too close.

“When you have lived in a dungeon for a very long time the light when you see it can actually hurt your eyes” ~Marianne Williamson

That is Saturn in the 7th house attracting men with planets placed in Capricorn, planets in hard aspect to Saturn men that are blocked in some manner, men that think accomplishment is the gateway to self-love. Surprise it isn’t! No amount of accolades, money, or outer work will compensate for a lack of inner work

“You and I both know that we have shadow sides. We have edges my darling resistances to love” ~Marianne Williamson (She has Capricorn moon might I add and Sun square Saturn)

“A ring of fear surrounds love like rings around Saturn” ~Marianne Williamson

Even my crazy partying Gemini ran his own company work hard play hard was the motto.

I thought perhaps every time  that I could show them there is more to life, you think you can tell them life holds more beauty then 7 figures sitting in a bank account. I want to shout none of this shit matters !!!! But they don’t hear me. You can show someone the path but you can not make them travel it.


Richard Burton put it best when he said “we operate on alien wave-lengths. You are as distant as Venus–planet, I mean–and I am tone-deaf to the music of the spheres”

Maybe my Gemini listened more so then the others, he had Aquarius rising so he was evolved he use to tell me I think you know things no one else does. I was deeply honored

With this Capricorn Rising and my crazy Gemini My Moon conjunct their natal Chiron I don’t know if I possessed a conscious need to heal them. Chiron is where you carry your deepest wound accordingly to cafeastrology.com “Chiron represents insecurity, where we feel an endless need to prove ourselves”

I do not have a heavy Saturn or  Chiron in my natal chart I have Chiron hanging out in my 2nd house …we all have Chiron some place it opposes my Uranus in the 8th I read that those of us that have Uranus opposite Chiron “reiki, acupuncture, therapy are some examples of the subtle energy healing techniques that may be apart of your wounding, healing journey”

It was this Capricorn rising that inspired me to  get more involved in Reiki healing I am going for my certification at the beginning of 2017. I had touched him lightly in his stomach area and felt this wound, it was open, it was like I stuck my hand into another dimension and I quickly pulled it out.

It is said in synastry the moon person can heal and nurture the chiron person. I read on yahoo answers “when your moon conjuncts his chiron you possess the innate and uncanny ability to see through his facade and literally feel his pain”

Some people prefer to live behind a mask, some people prefer we don’t see the Wizard of Oz man behind the curtain. On some level they  enjoy their man made prisons it feels safer living with in them.

It takes alot to live your most authentic life, this personal path of endless self analysis that those of us are on isn’t easy. And yes we may meet people who have lost sight of who they are, and we may encounter people that forgot the beauty in love, and sometimes I think we- those of us in the metaphysical field- feel: I see the soul of you I know the whole of you… but you can not remind people who they are when they would rather forget. And you can not heal anyone that doesn’t want to heal. You can not make some travel on a path of self discovery if their soul isnt ready to leave where they are. It simply doesnt work this way. And while this saddens me I know I am living authentically I have gone to war with my wounds I am healed I am present and ready for great love and in the words of Nayyirah Waheed “You never ever have to convince someone to do the work to be ready. There is more extraordinary love out here in this wide and wild universe. And there is the love that will be ready”

 

Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Brandi vs. Joyce Round 1

Published January 14, 2014 by starsmoonandsun

Brandi

brandi glanville

Without a time of birth I’m going to assume Brandi moon sign is in the sign of the warrior, Aries. If she was born prior to 4pm she would have a Pisces moon; sympathetic and dreamy An Aries moon on the other hand is direct, forceful, blunt, I have this placement we can be forceful not everyone can handle this. It gives an odd dichotomy to her Scorpio Sun, which is secretive, private, in search of control, protective. Mercury planet of communication was retrograde when Brandi was born in its sign of detriment no less, Sagittarius. This in itself may make it hard to communicate, opposing her natal Saturn planet of Karma and rules I have no doubt she has told a number of people to go fuck themselves. This isn’t a meek woman, with her Moon in Aries opposite Pluto she will likely come face to face with many women, need to take her power from women and show who is top dog. Venus planet of love and finances is conjunct wild card Uranus indicating unusual romances will be a theme in her life as will sudden marriages and just as quick divorces. It is likely she will often be privy to sudden windfalls in terms of money and just as quick; loses. I think it is safe to say she does have some issues with alcohol with Neptune making an aspect to most of her personal planets Neptune after all is the planet of escapism, addiction, though this also the reason she was most likely a model as it adds a certain mystique and glamour. Neptune conjunct the sun often brings father issues perhaps he himself had addiction issues or you see him as some god like figure. In any event women with Neptune on the sun need to be careful as to who they chose to partner with this is highly indicative of picking up addicts, swindlers and conartists. The upswing being with creative types, actors, perhaps musicians.

Now here we have Joyce
joyce giraud

An Aries Sun, similar to Brandi’s moon, she is combative, forceful, direct Aries Suns want to be first, they want to be known as special; this is like 2 rams battling. Personally Aries moon trumps the Aries sun in feisty and forcefulness because while the sun attributes are often learned the moon is instinctual. It is obvious to the naked eye that Joyce cannot mentally spar with Brandi; she cannot go wit for wit. Unlike Brandi with her Sun conjoining Neptune, Joyce has Sun square Saturn… this doesn’t make for a life of the party. Often the Sun square Saturn person has a history of depression inherited from the father. They often marry for financial reasons and security and feel they have to work twice as hard as everyone else to get ahead. Joyce moon is in the moons sign of detriment, Capricorn concerned with achievement and stability. Her mother may have been the father figure in the home. Her moon which represents the women in her life is square wildcard Uranus. Whereas Brandi may wrestle or fight for power or dominance with women (Notice she felt Lisa somehow was controlling her) but with Joyce square to Uranus, this isn’t a “girls girl placement” This is a women that perhaps wasn’t nurtured as a child, can be emotionally cold and distant, has erratic an inconsistent relationships with women.

The Issues, drama and the synastry
Brandi Sun in Scorpio is opposite Joyce Venus in Taurus AND Vice Versa (Double whammy) Joyce Sun in Aries is opposed by Brandi Venus in Libra
The Sun is your identity, how you present yourself when opposite another person’s Venus which is related to values, aesthetics this indicates that Brandi most likely finds Joyce superficial (Venus in Taurus) and Joyce doesn’t care for the way Brandi presents herself (Sun in Scorpio)

Brandi Sun in Scorpio is opposite Joyce Mars in Aquarius
If this was a love affair the disagreements would be epic. The Sun is how you shine the manner in which you present yourself, the way you say ta-da and here comes Mars challenging your identify, pushing you, agitating you

Brandi’ Moon conjoins Joyce Mercury
When the moon (emotions) is in aspect to another person’s Mercury (logic) it is difficult o maintain balance. Conversations become emotional; it is difficult to take a step back. Even if the moon person (In this case Brandi) wants to maintain some emotional distance it is likely the Mercury person experiences the moon person as being emotional

Brandi moon is opposed by Joyce’s Pluto no doubt Brandi feels threatened and challenged by Joyce. I’m not saying she is jealous, but something about Joyce threatens her security. Recently Brandi made mention that because of some comments Joyce made Brandi could’ve had her children taken away. The moon is the mother; Pluto can be ruthless on the moon, the moon person can feel exposed by the Pluto person.

No Love Lost here
Brandi Venus in Libra is squared by Joyce Saturn in Cancer
Venus is love, money and affection you never want someone’s Saturn on your Venus. I’m sorry I’m just putting it out there. Saturn is too cold, ridged and miserly on Venus. Saturn is concerned with what’s right, Saturn is the planet of rigidly No wonder she didn’t get in the pool at the pool party. Ha!
Brandi Mars in Scorpio Squares Joyce Moon in Capricorn, similar to the sun mars opposition only in this case Joyce feels emotionally poked at by Brandi, she feels Brandi is an instigator.

I’m not a fan of either, if I had to choose one I would take Brandi. Joyce bores me. But I must say the more I study astrology and synastry I realize that rarely is someone a “bad person”, we just have less than ideal synastry with people. This is a case where I would suggest they leave one another alone. This may be hard for Joyce seeing how she is so dull; she needs to riel up Brandi for some camera time. Xo

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