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Jupiter enters Libra September 10th 2016

Jupiter will enter Libra on September 10th 2016 and will stay in the cardinal air sign until October 10, 2017. Jupiter stays in a sign for approximately a year and will transit the entire birth chart in 12 years. Jupiter transits are quick and not life changing. I have received some flak for saying that I am not fond of Jupiter transits. I feel more than anything they infuse the house they are in over a 12-month period with optimism but if anyone is looking for quick lotto gains and Princesses Diana weddings, I don’t believe Jupiter brings us this despite what we are sometimes led to believe.

 

In my opinion the most significant Jupiter transits are when Jupiter crosses the ascendant and into the first house, I have seen some people abandon their old life in search of new. Just recently someone I know moved after 20+ years at the same residence and another that changed jobs after 15 years in the same establishment. Jupiter transits to the 1st house encourages people to take chances and leaps of faith. I love that!

 

I’m also fond of your Jupiter return I believe this brings blessings or gifts to the house that holds the natal placement of Jupiter. This occurs approximately every 12 years so ages 23, 36, 48 etc. A planetary return is when a planet returns to the place it was at the time of your birth. For example the Solar Return happens once a year on your birthday when the sun returns to the place it was at the time of your birth, a Saturn Return happens twice at the age of 28-31 approx. and 56-60, Uranus makes one return if you are lucky enough to live to 84 but Jupiter due to the quick rate at which it moves will return to your natal Jupiter every 12 years. I find those years to be particularly significant

 

Jupiter Rules:

 

  • Optimism
  • Prosperity
  • Freedom
  • Expansion
  • Morals
  • Wisdom
  • Trust
  • Goodwill

 

When Jupiter transits a house more than anything we believe in the possibilities, our approach is an inclination that things will work out. We believe and while IMO that isn’t the transformative energy I much prefer, it can certainly lighten the load.

 

Libra is the sign that corresponds to

 

  • Beauty
  • Partnership
  • Equality
  • Balance
  • Fairness
  • Harmony
  • Diplomacy

 

Libra Rules the 7th house in astrology home to

 

  • Law Suits
  • Open Enemies
  • Marriages and Divorces
  • Negotiations
  • Contracts
  • Business Partnerships

 

(Of course, Libra also has the shadowy side as well –indecisive, superficial, in need of partnership to the point they often cannot function alone)

 

I find the nature of Jupiter corresponds well with the philosophies of Libra. In Author Molly Halls book (cover featured below) she describes Libra as a sign “that’s passion for justice makes Libra a sign that excels in diplomacy, law, politics, mediation and social advocacy”. She goes on to describe the planet Jupiter as “Jupiter rules all areas in which an over reaching meaning is sought; these include religion, publishing, philosophy and the legal profession”. I would go so far as to say that I expect to see Jupiter’s visit to Libra to either enhance our current partnerships both personal and professional or free us from them. Remember Jupiter rules expansion and freedom and often you will find during a Jupiter transit you are let go of or fired from a job you really didn’t like or you find the courage to leave an unfulfilling relationship (Libra being the sign of partnership). Sometimes things happen that seem awful at the time but really serve to expand (Jupiter) our consciousness and quality of life really.

molly hall book

I am still hopeful to see some law enforcement reform with Saturn Lord of Karma visiting Sagittarius and now perhaps getting a boost from Jupiter in Libra. Both Sag and Libra correspond to legalities both being somewhat idealist signs I think perhaps they can bring some much-needed change in Police Departments across the country (fingers crossed). More than anything I expect Jupiter in Libra to alter the way we as a whole relate to one another. I would expect to see a boost in our partnerships. If you are a Libra rising, Sun or Moon do watch your diet this is the transit of gaining weight. After all Jupiter expands whatever it touches and sometimes that is our waistline; on the Ascendant that is how you appear and the Moon rules our eating habits. I know we tend to think of Jupiter as a beneficial transit but you do want to watch your debts (8th house) and expenditures (2nd house) when Jupiter transits the money houses as already mentioned Jupiter expands whatever it touches and that isn’t necessarily always a good thing.

The Tarot Card associated with Jupiter in Libra is 4 of swords sometimes knows as Truce. If you think about the number 4 it is all about balance and that is what Libra seeks most, equality. Four is a stable number 4 legs to a table, a square has 4 sides, we have 4 cardinal points, east, west, north and south, 4 seasons, 4 phases of the moon etc. Swords are related to air and intellect Libra is an air sign, concerned with peace, diplomacy and like all air signs: ideas. The 4 of swords is about taking a time out before the fight which is indicated in the 5 of swords, it seeks to find a peaceful resolution. I recall someone once describing Libra as an “Iron fist in a velvet glove”. So perhaps this tarot card is the gathering of strength, the rest before the action, as you can see 3 swords are above the sleeping man and one is just below him, easy to grasp in a moment’s notice. While Libra may seem passive one must not forget they are a cardinal sign like Aries, Cancer and Capricorn so they do direct their energy outward. I also believe this card relates to Jupiter in the sense that Jupiter is sometimes the bragger yes someone that talks excessively (Jupiter in the 3rd house or Jupiter on Mercury) but sometimes Jupiter is an inner knowing an inner expansion and inner peace and that is reflected in this card.

I hope Jupiter’s visit to Libra brings you the improved relationships you seek. If nothing else maybe we will be inclined to see the very best in others xoxo

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War Machine & Christy Mack: The explosive synastry

War Machine & Christy Mack in happier times
War Machine & Christy Mack in happier times

While glazing over TMZ I came across the story of MMA fighter War Machine and his adult film star ex girlfriend. Allegedly he beat her breaking 18 of her bones, sawed off her hair and knocked out her teeth.

You can read the full story here and see the pictures I will not post as they are very graphic

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/12/porn-star-christy-mack-speaks-out_n_5672346.html
I am not familiar with either of them but took a moment to review their synastry. Had an astrologer reviewed it, they likely could have very well predicted that domestic abuse would have been a theme in this relationship. Someone recently asked me about Mars and Pluto in aspect in synastry; it is considered the domestic violence aspect Pluto Lord of the Underworld; power and control meeting up with Mars God of War and action via square equals tension, conflict this can’t be good especially when combined with other  “bad” aspects.

No one aspect can be used as a stand alone, I’m in no way suggesting you to look at one aspect in a chart and run for your life. After all a chart comparison with all trines and sextiles will bore you to death! But when you have several I would say 3 or more harsh aspects particularly involving Saturn, Mars, and Pluto; there may be a cause for concern. Aside from Mars square Pluto War Machine and Christy also have Moon opposite Mars; Moon in astrology is your comfort zone, it’s the planet that rules your security, and here is someone’s Mars planet of military ruler of knives and guns opposing your moon; Christy has a sensitive moon in Pisces with War Machines Mars in Virgo opposing her emotional state, this indicates fights that are heightened emotionally, feelings swing high and low, and to be blunt Mars is never sensitive Mars wants what is wants and on her moon; her femininity we see the brute force he allegedly applies to her; chopping her hair, beating her face and the attempted rape.

Each chart individually has a propensity to attract troubling relationships; Christy Mack has Sun in exact opposition to Pluto the sun rules the men in our lives; with the opposition from Pluto she will likely attract dominant men , what is War Machines quote on twitter “I do alpha male shit”. In his chart he has Venus square Pluto this indicates love is all or nothing he has joked in the media prior that he would kill her if they broke up

War Machine joked about killing Christy Mack if they broke up (Video)

When Venus planet of love meets Pluto planet of domination and control; this indicates love is possession. He also has Pluto square Moon indicating his issue with needing to control women, he probably possesses depth of emotion, this like Venus square Pluto is all or nothing in love.

These aspects do not guarantee out right physical abuse but when Pluto is involved there is always this underlying not entirely normal connection; control, stalking and a feeling of needing to win. I often think of Pluto contacts like a chess game, Pluto has patience determination and is always looking to declare checkmate whether it’s via emotional upheaval or psychological warfare.  This is why you often read “Pluto always has the upper hand”

I also want to mention that sometimes two people come together and bring out the worst in one another. I remember I was in an astrology class discussing OJ and Nicole brown Simpson I believe her Uranus energy (unconventional, unorthodox, irregularity) fell in OJ’s 6th house of routine and order my instructor said her energy would be unsettling everyday to his routine. She brought that energy to him. I am in NO way implying a woman is at fault; I am simply bringing to your awareness the way someone’s planets fall on your planets act like a permanent transit; it’s always active so if someone’s Pluto falls on your personal planets the theme will always be digging, depth, darkness, obsession, power and control but you can meet someone else and maybe you don’t have any Pluto ties with them but instead have several Neptune connections so that relationship will be compassionate, telepathic, kind, surreal. If someone’s Uranus falls in your 6th house for as long as you know them you will find them unsettling to your daily routine.

In short you can’t choose who you love but you can chose what you do about those you love. Some connections aren’t healthy or normal and when we can use astrology to bring awareness to these connections and hopefully recognize patterns before it is too late.

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Bonnie & Clyde Its a Venus Square Pluto affair

 

I just finished wBonnie and Clyde 2atching Bonnie and Clyde on Netflix; I saw the original film and Bonnie & Clyde on Broadway what can I say I like tragic romances, that ride to you die sort of love.Bonnie and Clyde
The first thing I noticed about Bonnie Parker’s chart is that her Sun squares her Mars; the sun rules the man in a woman’s life this indicates she would likely attract a spirited man with the likelihood of him being an Aries…wha-la See Aries Clyde.
The accounts on her vary but I would tend to believe any women with Mars on her Sun was no wallflower; this had to be a woman with moxie. Since we do not have her exact time of birth we do not know the house cusps or the aspects her moon makes. However we can see she is extremely “Plutonian” with the planet Pluto forming hard aspects to all personal planets (even if the orb is a bit wide), Pluto forming a tight Square to love planet Venus indicates you are drawn to dark relationships, all or nothing partnerships, intense love affairs. Love is extreme when Pluto and Venus meet in the natal, composite or synastry charts.
In walks Clyde Barrow, he himself having an EXACT Venus square Pluto I mean we may as well call this officially the Bonnie & Clyde Aspect.  When you have this aspect love affairs are fated. Clyde’s Venus is in dreamy Pisces, Venus in a man’s chart is one indicator of what he is looking for in a woman, evidentaly he found that in Bonnie; a wanna be model and actress.
The Synastry of Bonnie and Clyde is quite hot; with his sun in Aries opposing her sun in Libra, they also have Sun opposite Mars these aspects make for a willful combination. Perhaps with the opposition there can be a seesaw effect with each taking charge, with each one running things at different points in time. Clyde’s Venus in Pisces opposes Bonnie’s Venus in Virgo each having something the other one lacks.
They also have a nice flow of energy from Uranus the planet of the unconvientional to one anothers personal planets; they encourage one another to be who they really are. And of coarse his Pluto Squares her Venus and vise versa. That ride till we ride love, us against the world sort of love…that all or nothing love. 
Just like the stars in Heaven 
Fling round the moon at nite, 
I’ll stay with you forever, 
Whether you are wrong or right.” – Bonnie Parker Poem

 

 

 

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Knight of Cups and Neptune in Love

knight of cups tarotKnight of cups

 

I was reading something about the tarot card the Knight of Cups the other day; the Knight of Cups will do whatever it takes for the Queen, even if they could never be together. I am not well versed in tarot whatsoever. But as I read I was thinking how very Neptunian. Maybe he doesn’t carry the knowledge of the King of Cups or perhaps he is blinded by everything except his love for the Queen. I was reminded of a collection of books I once read by Rosalind Miles involving Kings, Queens and epic romances. Those grandiose romances belong to Neptune.

Rosalind Miles Books

As I dug a bit further http://www.llewellyn.com/journal/article/2041 I came to find out Knight of Cups is the Prince Charming of the tarot and is associated with the astrological sign of Pisces. Pisces is ruled by Neptune; it’s weird how the card holds a certain energy. How the tarot card or tarot reading call tell a story.

I began to think about Neptune in synastry it gets a really bad rap, I think one that isn’t really warranted. It seems astrologer Linda Goodman would agree.

Neptune square Venus

 

 

Saturn forces another person to mature; it can also be cold and distant in synastry; Uranus can indicate the unusual and instability, Pluto will strip you and rip your heart out and transform you and Neptune well at its best it is telepathic communications, the desire to meld and dissolve into another, compassion, you would do anything for the other person; Neptune infused relationships will involve some music and a transcdental feeling. On the negative a heightened sense of jealousy may stem from the Venus person due to the fact they will never entirely be able to pin down the Neptune person. That is in their mind, the Neptune individual may fully be present but the Venus person experiences them as elusive. Neptune/Venus relationships may feature some deceit MAYBE or maybe what someone perceives as deceit but all in all I think there are worse aspects to have in synastry.

Neptune and Venus create compassion and epic romances, the Neptune person gets to live like a glorified ideal. No one will ever see you (the Neptune person) the way the Venus person does. Neptune is placed like a pie in the sky to Venus. This is indicative of opening up other portals, a love that exists in another realm; you see each other’s best traits (sure because you tend to ignore everything else). The Venus person may not care about much of anything else, but when Venus meets Neptune they will find something that similar to the Knight of Cups is worth traveling on horseback with sentiments of love and blind devotion.

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Mercury conjunct Mars in the natal chart

Sometimes I feel like the Taylor Swift of astrology ( we both have sun in the 5th house so I would say creativity stems from romance). So often my posts are about a romantic interest.

This week I met up with an ex of mine. And as we talked I realized he had the inability to sit still. He isn’t still, he has never been still. He talks fast, he is theatrical in speech and funny without intending to be when I looked at his chart I realized he has mercury conjunct mars in Virgo. Mercury is your thought process, your intellectual ability, the way you process things, how you get around Mercury rules your mobility conjunct mars, planet of action, god of war, ruler of young men, the military and guns; this aspect indicates these two work in unison. Mars and Mercury, action and communication go hand in hand. It’s no wonder he jumps up when he is talking and has the inability to listen (he also lost a finger Mercury/Gemini specifically rules fingers in a gun accident which is Mars). He is abundantly blunt and I find it amusing; that someone can be more direct then me, the way he says exactly what he thinks and feels with precision (Virgo) He doesn’t mince words Mercury in Virgo is exacting. Mercury is strong in his chart, Mercury is well placed in Virgo. With a natal Mercury conjunct Mars thoughts must fly at him, information is processed quickly and you aren’t likely to sway his opinion or point of view. I laughed when he said he could be polite but if anyone asked his opinion he would indeed give it. Ha ha like I would’ve thought differently. Personally I have Mars sextile my Mercury so my mind rarely if ever shuts off I often tote: I solve problems in my sleep. People always say I am
blunt, I have Mars in the 3rd house of communication my internal process is always going, deciding thinking, I drive and walk fast (3rd house rules mobility) I am always analyzing but I’m still, I tend to sit still, I can appear still with Mars in slow ass Taurus and Mercury in sideways moving cancer. I think and then move but my thinking and moving aren’t occurring at once. In synastry we have nice mercury sextile mercury and mars trine mercury this is a nice mental rapport and it is unlikely that either are offended by one another though I’m sure many people in our outer worlds find us to blunt, direct or perhaps lacking tact.

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Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Brandi vs. Joyce Round 1

Brandi

brandi glanville

Without a time of birth I’m going to assume Brandi moon sign is in the sign of the warrior, Aries. If she was born prior to 4pm she would have a Pisces moon; sympathetic and dreamy An Aries moon on the other hand is direct, forceful, blunt, I have this placement we can be forceful not everyone can handle this. It gives an odd dichotomy to her Scorpio Sun, which is secretive, private, in search of control, protective. Mercury planet of communication was retrograde when Brandi was born in its sign of detriment no less, Sagittarius. This in itself may make it hard to communicate, opposing her natal Saturn planet of Karma and rules I have no doubt she has told a number of people to go fuck themselves. This isn’t a meek woman, with her Moon in Aries opposite Pluto she will likely come face to face with many women, need to take her power from women and show who is top dog. Venus planet of love and finances is conjunct wild card Uranus indicating unusual romances will be a theme in her life as will sudden marriages and just as quick divorces. It is likely she will often be privy to sudden windfalls in terms of money and just as quick; loses. I think it is safe to say she does have some issues with alcohol with Neptune making an aspect to most of her personal planets Neptune after all is the planet of escapism, addiction, though this also the reason she was most likely a model as it adds a certain mystique and glamour. Neptune conjunct the sun often brings father issues perhaps he himself had addiction issues or you see him as some god like figure. In any event women with Neptune on the sun need to be careful as to who they chose to partner with this is highly indicative of picking up addicts, swindlers and conartists. The upswing being with creative types, actors, perhaps musicians.

Now here we have Joyce
joyce giraud

An Aries Sun, similar to Brandi’s moon, she is combative, forceful, direct Aries Suns want to be first, they want to be known as special; this is like 2 rams battling. Personally Aries moon trumps the Aries sun in feisty and forcefulness because while the sun attributes are often learned the moon is instinctual. It is obvious to the naked eye that Joyce cannot mentally spar with Brandi; she cannot go wit for wit. Unlike Brandi with her Sun conjoining Neptune, Joyce has Sun square Saturn… this doesn’t make for a life of the party. Often the Sun square Saturn person has a history of depression inherited from the father. They often marry for financial reasons and security and feel they have to work twice as hard as everyone else to get ahead. Joyce moon is in the moons sign of detriment, Capricorn concerned with achievement and stability. Her mother may have been the father figure in the home. Her moon which represents the women in her life is square wildcard Uranus. Whereas Brandi may wrestle or fight for power or dominance with women (Notice she felt Lisa somehow was controlling her) but with Joyce square to Uranus, this isn’t a “girls girl placement” This is a women that perhaps wasn’t nurtured as a child, can be emotionally cold and distant, has erratic an inconsistent relationships with women.

The Issues, drama and the synastry
Brandi Sun in Scorpio is opposite Joyce Venus in Taurus AND Vice Versa (Double whammy) Joyce Sun in Aries is opposed by Brandi Venus in Libra
The Sun is your identity, how you present yourself when opposite another person’s Venus which is related to values, aesthetics this indicates that Brandi most likely finds Joyce superficial (Venus in Taurus) and Joyce doesn’t care for the way Brandi presents herself (Sun in Scorpio)

Brandi Sun in Scorpio is opposite Joyce Mars in Aquarius
If this was a love affair the disagreements would be epic. The Sun is how you shine the manner in which you present yourself, the way you say ta-da and here comes Mars challenging your identify, pushing you, agitating you

Brandi’ Moon conjoins Joyce Mercury
When the moon (emotions) is in aspect to another person’s Mercury (logic) it is difficult o maintain balance. Conversations become emotional; it is difficult to take a step back. Even if the moon person (In this case Brandi) wants to maintain some emotional distance it is likely the Mercury person experiences the moon person as being emotional

Brandi moon is opposed by Joyce’s Pluto no doubt Brandi feels threatened and challenged by Joyce. I’m not saying she is jealous, but something about Joyce threatens her security. Recently Brandi made mention that because of some comments Joyce made Brandi could’ve had her children taken away. The moon is the mother; Pluto can be ruthless on the moon, the moon person can feel exposed by the Pluto person.

No Love Lost here
Brandi Venus in Libra is squared by Joyce Saturn in Cancer
Venus is love, money and affection you never want someone’s Saturn on your Venus. I’m sorry I’m just putting it out there. Saturn is too cold, ridged and miserly on Venus. Saturn is concerned with what’s right, Saturn is the planet of rigidly No wonder she didn’t get in the pool at the pool party. Ha!
Brandi Mars in Scorpio Squares Joyce Moon in Capricorn, similar to the sun mars opposition only in this case Joyce feels emotionally poked at by Brandi, she feels Brandi is an instigator.

I’m not a fan of either, if I had to choose one I would take Brandi. Joyce bores me. But I must say the more I study astrology and synastry I realize that rarely is someone a “bad person”, we just have less than ideal synastry with people. This is a case where I would suggest they leave one another alone. This may be hard for Joyce seeing how she is so dull; she needs to riel up Brandi for some camera time. Xo

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Let sleeping babies lie; Saturn in synastry

Saturn on the Sun, Moon, and Venus is deemed one of the worst aspects in synastry. You need more than one aspect to declare this. Everything is good in moderation, even Pluto but put it on several of another person’s personal planets and you may feel as though you are living inside an episode of Revenge.

Revenge

I have several blog entries about Saturn due to meeting someone over the summer. Not a lover but not quite just a friend, all I know is I found his mind to be electric, I found him to be fascinating and different then what I had been experiencing over the last few years. If anything I was worried about all our Venus connections and superficial ties. I don’t do superficiality

Venus is Synastry Light and Fluffy coming right up


I saw that his Saturn was on my Sun, Moon, and Mercury and we had a dreadful Saturn square Venus Composite (this one never survives) but quite honestly even as an astrologer I did not want to believe what was said about Saturn:

saturn in synastry

When older more seasoned astrologers looked at our synastry, it was “Oh”. “Or oh no this is bad”. I could not believe it; after all the two of us on a number of occasions would say to one another. “you are fascinating “and the other would say “oh no you are fascinating” Until fascinatingly enough those Saturn ties kicked in. Saturn rules time, so it takes some time but ultimately those Saturn connections will prevail
At first I believed he simply didn’t like heavy conversations. I’m a get to the root and soul of the matter sort of person, but I was happy to bask in his light.

Love is hard; Saturn aspects


Than I thought maybe I just need to try to break through those walls; I have a way about me I believe in the impossible. Than I thought maybe he is guarded and perhaps accept that there will always be that slight distance

Saturn in Synastry Round 2


but ultimately wah-lah we are at a point where we will not be friends, obviously we cant be lovers. And like a sleeping baby in a movie I felt he was a parent (Saturn rules authority and fathers) tip toeing out of my room as I dream careful not to wake me, tip toe, tip toe and just like that now all that light and fluffy, all those fascinating conversations have diminished and all I see are Saturn ties

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Orbs in synastry

The orb is the distance from one planet to another this can be in the natal chart or in synastry; the examination of your chart to another. The tighter the orb or distance from one planet to another the greater the impact. Looking at charts can be overwhelming. All this information often conflicting. I’ve taken the synastry (comparison of 2 charts) of my natal chart & that of a male friend We have a lot of outer planet connections, we have karmic ties what else is new 😉 . If you take a look at his Pluto in the 6th it touches all my personal planets. His Pluto squares my sun by 8 degrees & opposes my moon by 9 degrees this is a very wide distance. Some astrologers wouldn’t even consider this because it’s so far. Personally I would go up to 8. Normally Pluto creates obsessive, intense, crazy loves I’ve written tons of posts about Pluto plutonic love & at first glance one may think we are plunging the depths of one another emotionally but upon further inspection we see his Saturn in the 6th is exact square on my sun & opposite my moon with a 1 degree orb. This is tight tight tight. Saturn is like hitting a brick wall in synastry. He puts up walls between us. That’s fine he is taken so if those walls weren’t up my pants might be down ha ha This is not a complaint but rather an observation for learning purposes. Where Pluto is getting to the root of the root of the planet it touches Saturn keeps the planet at bay, at a distance, don’t get to close; the timing may be off, the Saturn person has other responsibilities. My plutonic love & I had very tight orbs with my Pluto on all his planets. Pluto rules destruction, annihilation I use to fall apart on him, collapse on him You can’t do that with tight Saturn in synastry. You have to walk the line, keep it together. Saturn after all is the disciplinarian of the zodiac. The distance between us is further enhanced by his Uranus in the 7th opposite my venus by 0 degrees that is exact, When I try to get close (venus) he will run (Uranus). I have learned to accept relationships as they are. Trying to find the unacceptable acceptable. So when you are looking at synastry first begin with the tightest aspects up to 3 degrees you will notice them immediately & have to deal with them often. Are you hitting a brick wall?(Saturn) Running for your life? (Uranus) Walking in a dream? (Neptune) Or is apart of you dying only to be reborn? (Pluto) or maybe a bit of all 4

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Breaking up is hard to do Outer Planets role in synastry

Breaking up is hard to do Outer Planets role in synastry
I classify people and experiences by outer planets, oh that was one hell of a Saturian experience, there was the Plutonic love, the Neptunian delusion and the what the hell just happened Uranian theme courtship. I’m making this up, but most likely when someone holds some meaning in your life you have outer planets aspecting there chart and vice versa. Meaning there outer planets touch your personal planets. Outer to outer is rather irrelevant. I was thinking about nice breakups, where two people go their separate ways with little to no anger or placing blame. I was thinking about our endings with other people. Strong Uranus ties most likely have no finality, POOF the person just leaves, plutonian endings are tragic; complete annihilation, someone wants to win, couples can see each others inadequacies and use them against one another. Neptune; maybe the person stole your money, maybe you found out on facebook that they have an entire 2nd family; Neptune brings victimization to the forefront, someone feels duped someone feels taken advantage of, someone is invariably left wondering why didn’t I see this about so and so before. Saturn, oh Saturn I think you can have a nice break up with Saturn, I think you can part ways even in hurt with Saturian ties. Saturn is the dad of the zodiac, he is karma, and he wants to do the right thing. That’s the nature of Saturn, you don’t want to destroy the other person like Pluto, dupe them out of their life savings like Neptune, or just pick up and move to India like Uranian ties. You want it to be right; sure there may have been 30 men and women you left before they even woke in the morning. But if you have Saturn ties, you won’t do that. There is a sense of duty that exists with Saturn ties so they or you will say the timing is off, or they or you have other commitments but they won’t burn your house down like Pluto or use your address as an alias when they finally get arrested for all those drugs they sold out of your apartment like Neptune and they won’t disappear like Uranus.

Keys themes for relationships that are very much:

Saturn: time, where did the time go? This is the wrong time? I wish we had more time? Responsibility to work, to family or to someone else. Commitment, responsibility, karma, hard work. These relationships involve work, either the two people will work together, be bound to other work; they will find together they have to work very hard. Break ups can be difficult for whatever reason, Saturn is binding.
Uranus: Here today gone tomorrow, post-it break ups, divorced planned in secret (think Katie Holmes & Tom Cruise), sudden, abrupt, no explanation, when the excitement wears off they are onto the next thing, living in separate states, open relationships, threesomes, unconventional. Breaks up tend to be unexpected and sudden one person doesn’t see it coming.
Neptunian: Deceit sometimes unintended but you see what you want to see, con-artists, drug dealers; did you break up are you still together? You can’t be sure? Never on solid ground, walking between portals, tantric sex, and telepathy. When you break up there is often a sense of why didn’t I see this? How didn’t I know this? Perhaps an identity crisis, a crisis that leads to awakening that not everyone can be trusted
Pluto: death, transformation, annihilation, someone wants to win, dig deep, rip out your heart, tap dance of your soul, get to the root of the root of the person. Darkness, intensity. Breakups are marred by the realization: your life will never be the same again; you will never be the same again. When you break up: Love and hate take central stage, stalking, it’s not over till it’s over and lord you will know when it’s over. It is unlikely you will ever be friends.
What was your best and worst break up?