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Saturn opposite Venus Synastry

Published March 21, 2016 by starsmoonandsun

 

the road to hell

I never try I always walk away but when someone tells you they are doing everything they can to make you happy; you want to give it a go. When they tell you their intentions are not to hurt you, you want to try. But we all know that saying “the road to hell is paved with good intentions”. A psychic told me we will not make it very far, the two of us we were not meant to be (his Venus squares my north node I am sure this is some Karmic shit) She said I am meant to be single a citizen of the world not bound to anyone…. so I suppose one day I will write a blog post about him in entirety I will confess how I am so tired of leaving people behind and how I attempted to defy fate. How I have given up on the belief of true love, unicorns and Santa Clause.  Secretly I prefer to write a blog post on how I did defy fate….prayers up. I have been praying to god on the regular lately I am not sure he hears me.

His Venus conjuncts my sun, we have a 2 way sun moon sextile and some other really nice aspects but what I feel more than anything is his Saturn opposite my Venus. I wouldn’t wish this aspect on anyone.

Its Karmic all of my relationships no matter how fleeting, dysfunctional or downtrodden they might be are karmic, I have Saturn in the 7th house (so does he). I was thinking maybe relationships for me aren’t meant to be easy …scratch that I know they are not meant to be easy. So for once let me try, like really try

According to Linda Goodman

“Saturn has many lessons to teach Venus and Venus won’t be anxious to learn them. It will occasionally be a struggle but it’s your karmic destiny so you may as well make the best of it.  Saturn may not always but periodically behave toward Venus in a limiting, resentful, critical manner. The Plus side is Saturn will never leave you but will hang around you to provide a large measure of stability”

In the book “The Astrology of Human Relationships” it states

“This comparative combination indicates cold, emotionally distant relationships”

But of all the descriptions I have read the one from http://astromatrix.org/Horoscopes/Synastry-Aspects/Venus-Opposition-Saturn#/ Is by far the most accurate

“Your obligations are standing in the way of your relationship potentials. There is emotional distance as well as physical distance. When the Venus person is in opposition to the Saturn person, it may be very difficult for you to get together because of their other obligations”

There is this feeling of the person being a 1000 miles away, he feels 1000 miles away even when he is telling me everything I ever wanted to hear, even when he calls me daily

It can feel debilitating really.

Ya know I like merging with someone, infusing myself with someone and that won’t be permitted here. It’s like there is a wall up and I can’t get beyond it. I can’t climb over it or drive around it. And quite frankly I don’t understand it.

The other night we were out and I wanted to stay out later and he said I have to go to work in the morning and a lecture on duties and responsibilities followed and I thought wow their goes that Saturn opposite Venus. His responsibilities come before love, they come before me and that is something I could never relate too because I would put love above everything I believe love should come above all. And ya know I have an Aries moon so I think nothing should come before me LOL

It should come as no surprise I handed him a print out of what Saturn opposite Venus means and told him “we have that can you work on it” and he says he doesn’t want to be distant but yet he is even when he is sitting right there.

If you see this aspect in your synastry I believe it will override the nice aspects; Even Venus conjunct Sun

Which in the book “The Astrology of Human Relationships” it states

“This comparative aspect contributes greatly to romantic attraction and may indicate marriage”

Linda Goodman says of Venus conjunct Sun

“Friendship, companionship and loyalty are beaded on a silvery blue cord connecting you even when you are not in the same room” It’s one of the better aspects to have in synastry and maybe one of the reasons I haven’t walked away yet

That’s probably why I try it’s that small glimmer of hope that somehow we can connect that in some way we can transcend these limitations – it’s not looking too good.

Just to recap

Saturn rules

  • Responsibilities
  • Hardship
  • Coldness
  • Karma
  • Work
  • Blocks
  • Restriction

Venus Rules

  • Love
  • Affection
  • Enjoyment
  • Pleasure

When they meet via opposition or square there is a block, coolness, hardship when it comes to love, limitations on affection, and restrictions in pleasure.

I wonder how he receives me I told him I don’t want to nag you he says you aren’t nagging me. “When a car has a flat you don’t throw out the entire car you fix it. I will fix it”, he assures me and I can’t help but smile at his maturity with him being 10 years younger than me all that rational I don’t possess all those Saturn like ways  in a lot of ways its beautiful. I never said he was ill intended I simply said the road to hell was paved with good intentions.

PS It is said  Satan is derived from the word Saturn and The Devil Tarot Card is ruled by Capricorn which in turn is ruled by Saturn

 

Prayers Up

xo

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Saturn opposite Mars Transit disengage your rage

Published January 12, 2014 by starsmoonandsun

I want to cry, I want to scream I want to sleep for days & most of all I want to be left alone. I’am writing this while waiting for the train, I’m waiting because the doors just closed in my face. Last night I left work 1 hour early so I could get home early instead it took 2 hours. The subway announced something like this: attention all passengers due to track work expect delays in the early morning, in the late night & on the weekends. They should’ve just announced when there wouldn’t be track work. I’m having a Saturn opposite Mars transit. It’s getting tighter by the day. I’m unraveling more each day. Saturn Father Time, Lord of Karma, responsibility.. the authority is in the 9th house opposing my Mars in the 3rd house Mars rules action, aggression, the 3rd house rules community, transportation, communication, cars, transit, siblings, neighbors. Yesterday I was taking a nap only to be awaken by security in my building telling me to re park my car as it wasn’t inside the lines. Really? That’s Saturn for you, holding you accountable, he is the task master; making sure you do shit right. I don’t care about doing shit the “right” way. I want to do it my way. Mars square Saturn natal I say fuck the man, screw the system,rules are made to be broken. The night before I went out & when I wanted to take the train home I was informed I had to go six stops back to get on a different train to get to my stop. That seems to be the Saturn opposite Mars transit theme; six steps forward to go six steps back. I’ve read this is one of the more frustrating transits as you are filled with rage & you have to be careful to not go off on anyone or internalize it. Where is the release? The other day a car almost ran me over & I hit his mirror when he missed I was going to hit the car again but I slipped on ice & lost my footing …the universe was like no no be careful tread lightly. I feel like people are coming at me so I’ve made it a point to disengage my rage, I work with a woman that is quite erratic she once called the police on me after a work meeting & attempted to have me arrested when she didn’t like what I had to say. She became angry with me this week over some nonsense & I quietly said if you have an issue with me please don’t talk to me. I work with people all day & yesterday it appeared one after another were looking for an argument. I just kept telling myself don’t respond. This is going to be along transit & a difficult one. I hate saturn I hate him in synastry, natal & via transit. His energy is hard for me to adhere to. My chart is all cardinal I lead, I go, I’m on the move. My mars sextiles my mercury I’m fast mentally I grasp ideas & am quick verbally but the lesson of this transit is slow down ..really I wish someone could wake me when it’s over.

Some random Saturn lessons:
When Saturn squared my venus I learned love takes work more work than I was prepared to give

Saturn opposite my moon I was sad and spent time with a man that was melancholy. The theme misery loves company

Saturn square Sun: control is an illusion you can’t force anything in this life what is meant to be will be

http://starsmoonandsun.com/2011/11/26/saturn-transiting-8th-house-show-me-the-money/

Saturn conjunct my chart ruler: sometimes life doesn’t provide an escape hatch & you have to grin & bear it
http://starsmoonandsun.com/2013/06/24/lessons-of-a-saturn-transit/

http://starsmoonandsun.com/my-journey/uranus-conjunct-saturn-the-battle-continues/

Next year I’ll have saturn opposite Venus…oh goody I really can’t wait
this is the app time passages everyone should have it:

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Let sleeping babies lie; Saturn in synastry

Published November 19, 2013 by starsmoonandsun

Saturn on the Sun, Moon, and Venus is deemed one of the worst aspects in synastry. You need more than one aspect to declare this. Everything is good in moderation, even Pluto but put it on several of another person’s personal planets and you may feel as though you are living inside an episode of Revenge.

Revenge

I have several blog entries about Saturn due to meeting someone over the summer. Not a lover but not quite just a friend, all I know is I found his mind to be electric, I found him to be fascinating and different then what I had been experiencing over the last few years. If anything I was worried about all our Venus connections and superficial ties. I don’t do superficiality
http://starsmoonandsun.com/2013/07/02/venus-is-synastry-light-and-fluffy-coming-right-up/
I saw that his Saturn was on my Sun, Moon, and Mercury and we had a dreadful Saturn square Venus Composite (this one never survives) but quite honestly even as an astrologer I did not want to believe what was said about Saturn:

saturn in synastry

When older more seasoned astrologers looked at our synastry, it was “Oh”. “Or oh no this is bad”. I could not believe it; after all the two of us on a number of occasions would say to one another. “you are fascinating “and the other would say “oh no you are fascinating” Until fascinatingly enough those Saturn ties kicked in. Saturn rules time, so it takes some time but ultimately those Saturn connections will prevail
At first I believed he simply didn’t like heavy conversations. I’m a get to the root and soul of the matter sort of person, but I was happy to bask in his light.
http://starsmoonandsun.com/2013/06/20/love-is-hard-saturn-aspects/
Than I thought maybe I just need to try to break through those walls; I have a way about me I believe in the impossible. Than I thought maybe he is guarded and perhaps accept that there will always be that slight distance
http://starsmoonandsun.com/2013/08/19/saturn-in-synastry-round-2/
but ultimately wah-lah we are at a point where we will not be friends, obviously we cant be lovers. And like a sleeping baby in a movie I felt he was a parent (Saturn rules authority and fathers) tip toeing out of my room as I dream careful not to wake me, tip toe, tip toe and just like that now all that light and fluffy, all those fascinating conversations have diminished and all I see are Saturn ties

Venus is Synastry Light and Fluffy coming right up

Published July 2, 2013 by starsmoonandsun

Venus is astrology is light, it is love, enjoyment, recreation, beauty by aspect in synastry (comparison of 2 charts) it can indicate similar values; for instance Venus in pleasing aspect such as the sextile, trine or conjunct someone else’s Venus; you will appreciate the same leisurely activities, you will probably be on the same page regarding finances and there will be a natural affinity toward one another. I met someone recently, I like them and there is a general feeling of friendship that exists between the two of us. I find it to be an easy connection. There are other factors I’m waiting to kick in like his Saturn in exact square to my Sun and opposite my moon.Textbook indication is he is cold-ish ( I think he is just not as expressive), Saturn is cold and although we have heavy Pluto ties (so very typical of my life) I do get the feeling that I can’t plunge the depths of him emotionally. Then again that isn’t the nature of our connection. No two connections are alike I suppose. Venus can be superficial it isn’t probing like Pluto I never really considered a light kind of love before, ya know love and sex are these transformational experiences for me with Pluto opposite my moon and squaring my sun in the 5th house. There is often that part of me that goes from being extremely light in temperament to very dark; I’m either all in or all out. I recognize the potential for transformation that exists with his Pluto on all of my personal planets and tread lightly knowing my Pluto is squaring his Venus, love and friendship can take a turn for the worse with this aspect but generally I find being with him to be enjoyable. When I leave him I’m often on that rocket ship high, I can’t sleep I’m so infused with positive energy. It is so strange. It is so very different. My plutonic love was the opposite, the dichotomy between light (Venus) and dark (Pluto) fascinates me; upon leaving him I would need to sleep for days. I would often complain I felt heavy and tired. There were often tears and sad music. My moon conjunct his Venus which is a beautiful aspect but not enough to negate all that darkness after all my Pluto conjunct his moon in Libra. Our connection was not normal, I will always look back on him with great sadness and the acknowledgement that our connection changed my life, altered my existence. I respect that, I own it and I like to say for all the craziness: I forgive you but I would never want to relive you. We didn’t fully like each other as people I know that sounds crazy and I often wonder how can you love someone you don’t even like as a person, I guess you can’t so here I’m Venus ahh now that connection is different. People always ask; “I’m the Venus person who feels it more”. I can only tell you my experience I was the Pluto person that had my life turned upside down and now I’m the Venus person; my Venus aspects my male friend’s entire chart. I feel nothing but light toward him, he makes me feel light. I can’t attest to the way he experiences me. I can’t attest to the way Mr. Plutonic Love received me. But I can tell you each energy is special in its own right. Light and Fluffy or Dark and Murky Guess it just depends what you are in the mood for.
Some aspects I’m experiencing with my friend

His Venus is in Cancer, My Sun is in Cancer: General sense of being in sync, simpatico you get one another, supposedly good for shared resources.
My Venus squares his moon; affection and harmony though the moon person may have ties to another woman (he is married so…and yes we are just friends)
My Venus sextiles his Mercury: I love this aspect, we also have sun conjunct mercury and mercury conjunct mercury fabulous for mental connections: General affection, shared dreams, according to Linda Goodman book Relationship Signs the only negative is “exaggerated optimism” oh how very dreadful. Like I said I’m on a rocket ship
Venus sextile Venus
Mutual sympathy, you like the same things, similar interests generally speaking

Venus opposite Uranus;
I try to avoid this in relationships but being we are friends I suppose it doesn’t make a difference. When your Venus opposes someone’s Uranus they often take off and need alone time or need their own space. They leave, to me that is my worst fear. Like where did you go? I have read you will see this in a one night stand the coming together and falling apart. It can also mean the Uranus person brings unusual activities to the Venus person getting them to do things they normally wouldn’t do sexually and otherwise. Something unusual exists there.

Let me know; have you been Venus or Pluto?

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Pluto Song

Love is hard; Saturn aspects

Published June 20, 2013 by starsmoonandsun

Lately I have been thinking about Saturn in synastry, it gets a really bad rap. I heard a relationship (composite) chart with Venus square Saturn will not make it. Venus the planet of love in hard aspect to planet of duty, restriction, and hardship is well uh hard. Love shouldn’t be hard, not in my opinion. Love should be transformative (Pluto) wild (Uranus) transcendental (Neptune) but hard no thank you. I did a reading for someone that often complains about marriage & raising children I knew he was going to have Saturn square Venus because even taking kids to little league games sounds like a chore. No matter who he would have married I would assume he would think, wow this is hard. Secretly I think he blames his wife, but really it’s him. That’s the natal aspect but in synastry if one persons Saturn opposes or squares another persons personal planet Sun (identity), Moon (feelings), Mercury (mind), Venus (love and finance) and Mars (sex) the Saturn person brings with them into the relationship the Saturian energy, for example they can often critique the Sun person for instance my Saturn in Leo squared the Sun of a Taurus I knew and I often made reference to the manner in which he lived his life. Negative references. Why are you this way? Why do you play things so safe? After awhile that can become annoying to the Sun person, for understandable reasons.
Signs are square one another when they are in the same mode Taurus and Leo are both fixed signs but the way they operate is very different.
I also know a person that has Saturn in Libra opposing my Moon in Aries (Aries and Libra are opposite in the zodiac) and while I have tremendous regard for them there is often a sense of not being able to plunge the depths of them emotionally. His Pluto is opposite my Moon which indicates emotional transformation but the degree is much wider than the square from Saturn, the tighter the orb the greater the impact.
While I would try to avoid Saturn in harsh aspect to Moon Sun Venus & definitely Mars (sexual issues like mad) in a Composite/Relationship chart. In Synastry I’m not so sure as of yet. I think it depends on the individual A. If they have a natal Saturn Square Venus and some ones Saturn Squares their Venus they are already accustomed to love being hard etc B. This took me a very long time to learn, but not everyone is looking for emotional exploration. So if I’m closed emotionally and some ones Saturn is in hard aspect to my moon. Maybe I would be ok with that because I like keeping people at emotional distances. The problem would arise when you have someone that is extremely emotional and needs to connect on a deeper level, but they feel the Saturn person is at a distance. You can’t quite reach them.
I would love to hear from anyone that has experienced hard Saturn aspects in synastry or composite. How did this manifest for you? Were you the Saturn person? Is love indeed hard

Follow up post with end result:
http://starsmoonandsun.com/2013/11/19/let-sleeping-babies-lie-saturn-in-synastry/

Neptune Retrograde; Your not like the others futuristic lover

Published June 15, 2013 by starsmoonandsun

With Neptune in retrograde motion for the next 6 months and squaring my Venus I thought this would be an opportune time to write about Neptunian love affairs. I tweeted the other day if you have ever found yourself whispering “I need you” to a completely unavailable person then you undoubtedly have experienced Neptune on your Moon, Venus, Mars or Sun. Its alluring, hypnotic with a come hither vibe that whispers sweet nothings that sounds like somethings in your ear. Touch becomes otherworldly,

Like in the song by Katy Perry;

They say you’re not like the others, futuristic lover. Different DNA They don’t understand you

You’re from a whole other world. A different dimension. You open my eyes and I’m ready to go now lead me into the light.

Neptune will have you walking between worlds, the one based in reality with the tangible touch and another dimension that you can’t grasp with your hand but you know it is there. Or is it? In 2009 Neptune began to loosely square my Venus and became almost exact in the summer of 2011, when the veil was lifted and I was served a hard dose of reality. I have written about him so much quite frankly I could throw up, he is the reason I started this blog, he is my muse I suppose and though I could not feel further from him; he is a frame of reference for a lot of my astrological posts, he is my plutonic love. In Synastry or the comparison of 2 charts my Pluto aspected his entire chart, so that brought life changes, obsessions, upheavals, death and rebirth and while that was our combined energy I also had a Neptunian transit, the belief that everything was going to work out, that magically POOF! I would end up with him. Neptune = delusion. And the delusion came to a head and the veil fell on the day he booked his wedding at my place of employment. I don’t care to relive the past, I much prefer to sweep in under the carpet and leave it as some dust that has settled in that you can’t be bothered to clean up. But I want you to see how transits work; there is this experience occurring and then once the planets become exact there is an explosion, a truth, a change that occurs, a beginning or an ending. How that manifests is deeply personal for everyone. Surely no one on the face of the planet has had a fling with someone and then had that person come to your place of employment on their wedding day. Flash Forward present day; Neptune is working its way backward over my Venus yet again. Neptune is slow. Whereas the Sun changes sign roughly every 30 days Neptune will remain in Pisces until 2025! That’s a long time to live in lala land, a long time to walk between portals of what is real and what isn’t. But as with all retrograde periods life gives you a chance for a redo. Not with the same person, but perhaps with the same test. And maybe this time the ability to get it right. Fingers crossed. I don’t check my natal chart every day I live my life and as the saying goes I do believe life is meant to be lived forward but understood backward. The interesting thing about astrology is once you are familiar with a transit you can recognize it when you experience it again. Recently I have met someone I find extremely fascinating, like WOW similar to my 2009 plutonic love we don’t have a damn thing in common. He is unattainable but every word that he speaks is so utterly interesting. Retrograde planets: Hmm I have been here before. And when he said “I think you are amazing” and I said no no I think you are amazing. I knew I was in the midst of another Neptunian transit. Neptune is rolling over my Venus. I’ve placed 2 toothpicks in my eyes to make sure they remain open, consciously remain aware of what is not what I hope life to be. That is key in the midst of a Neptunian transit you should deal with facts and tangible realities. I’m not saying every part of a Neptune transit is heartbreaking I mean there is so much beauty to be found in unrequited love. Neptune on Venus is what poetry and sonnets are made of, and I don’t know if I have ever felt more alive or blindly hopeful as I do when Neptune is aspecting one of my personal planets.

The Facts:

Neptune travels backward through the zodiac for roughly 5 to 6 months. Neptune in Pisces will affect most profoundly those with planets from 1 – 7 degrees of mutable signs. So look to see if you have Moon, Mercury, Sun, Venus and Mars in 1-7 degrees of Gemini, Sagittarius, Virgo or Pisces. That’s where you will experience the allure and hypnotic energy of Neptune. Retrograde periods are a time of do over’s, they are for reflecting, looking back, perhaps revisiting old haunts. It is often a time when a theme in your life from the past resurfaces, I like to think of retrograde periods as: a second time to get it right.

The feeling:

I have never felt this way before, I need you, I want to curl up inside of you because a breath between us is too much, your beautiful, you are perfect (that has to be the worst) I have to have you, your touch is transcendental, Can we run away together, walking on the moon, looking at the stars, I know you just told me you are _____________(fill in the blank) married? Jobless? A priest? But I love you and have to have you anyway

What to remember:

It is very easy for all of us to play the victim, oh poor me. I didn’t see it I didn’t know it etc. it sucks yes but we have to take responsibility for our own poor choices no matter how painful. In the very Neptunian; Great Gatsby Scott F Fitzgerald said: “It takes two to make an accident”

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People have the right to select a life they believe will make them happy even if they have decided that life isn’t with you:
I believe Oprah and Iylanya said it best on Oprahs Life Class when they said:

You don’t get a vote in someone else’s life

On the days I become upset I have a picture in my phone of a quote I heard on the Oprah show Super Soul Sunday It one of my all time favorites:
Super Soul Sunday

A lot of times under a Neptunian transit there is a self sacrificial theme. I would have given up anything to be with my plutonic love. We exist worlds apart, he is very suburban think Mercedes Minivan and those family stick figures on the back windshield and I m very city-ish, I like to act, write, and hang out with gay men. I keep this in my phone as a reminder that his dreams were not my own and vise versa.

What to do:

Write, sing, and learn how to play an instrument, do not commit to anything until this transit passes in a few months, and guard your heart, your soul and your hot pocket. And when all else fails pour a glass (ONE glass Neptune also rules addiction) of wine and turn up the music. I’ll leave you with a lovely Neptunian song.

strange and beautiful

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