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pluto in synastry

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Published September 19, 2016 by starsmoonandsun

comet-movie-quotes

This is a quote from the movie Comet

I think it pretty much sums up a Pluto conjunct Sun in synatsry

I met someone recently and this is exactly how I feel, I need to know him no rhyme no reason.

Just this vague curiosity that sort of gnaws at you, a whisper a light come hither

Subtle Pluto is always subtle….until it isn’t LOL the drive is unconscious

Instinctively I knew my Pluto had to be on his Sun.

I prefer Pluto in synastry, the depth, the darkness, the transformation

I have Pluto on my Sun natal so this is going to be mirrored in my relationships with men

I always say I would chose Pluto over Saturn anytime

I would rather climb out of the fiery pits of hell but at least I will be reborn

If you don’t master Pluto, Pluto will master you. Where Pluto is in your natal chart is where you will experience things beyond your control

Pluto is square my Sun from the 8th house; all relationships with men are these transformational journeys-feel my eyes roll-

I have learned to harness the energy if you don’t and you are like me attracting Plutonian men and situations you will always attract situations where power plays take center stage. It takes an evolved person to work with Pluto.

Pluto is the planet of power; who harnesses it, who exerts it and who holds it. When you have 2 unevloved people with heavy Pluto contacts you have what I call the –check mate –situation one always holding court over the other.

Its always strange to me when you know astrology you can feel the energy that is activated when you meet someone

Pluto has to do with control, so knowing my Pluto is on this Mans sun I’m controlled  I am grounded I am conscious of the energy I am putting out

In Jewel Mayberry’s Youtube Video (See here)  Sun conjunct Pluto she described Pluto Conjunct Sun in a way I never quite thought of

“the sun person makes them (Pluto) feel warm where usually these are the cold, dark, parts of themselves ”

“You (Pluto) are use to it being zero degrees but now its 90 (Sun)”

After I kissed him I tweeted

Kissing you was like being dead for a thousand years and being brought back to life.

How Pluto conjunct Sun can I get? Pluto rules death and the sun is the life force

During a conversation he mentioned something alluding to ruining his life.

In Jewel Mayberry’s video on sun conjunct Pluto she mentioned

“The sun person can see the Pluto person as a threat to their identify”

Pluto is an agent of change, Pluto transforms whatever it touches so while I was annoyed at the implication I was reminded that Pluto can perhaps come off as an imminent threat to the Sun persons identity

When I see him again I will try to travel lightly as to not send him running for the hills after all I haven’t I finished knowing him and Pluto loves unearthing whatever it touches bit by bit

 

 

 

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Living with Pluto in the 8th house

Published January 16, 2013 by starsmoonandsun

Usually I plaster some catchy title, but let’s be honest Pluto and the 8th house do not need cheesy catch phrases or introductions.
Pluto planet of death and rebirth is at home in the 8th house and I’m accustomed to Pluto in the 8th house considering it has been there my entire life, people experiencing this via transit may be privy to some sudden and life altering experience and it can be quite alarming because they are not accustomed to the energy. I think if you have a planet nataly over time you will learn to harness that planets energy, have it work for you instead of against you.
The back story on Pluto
Pluto rules: death in all manners, physically, metaphorically, spiritually and rebirth. Pluto rules power, the fight for power, perhaps for some feeling powerless, control, domination, darkness, depth, endings, and beginnings. Pluto’s Nickname is Lord of the Underworld. Look to the natal house that holds Pluto to see where you fight for control, where you will meet powerful people and where you will die and be reborn.
The back story on the 8th house
The 8th house rules similar things that is why Pluto is comfortable there, death rebirth, power, it also rules joint resources…you look to the 8th house to see what will occur with people you share money with. This can be a bank, a spouse, a business partner, the 8th house also rules sex; I’m going to say the darker part of sex not the light and fuzzy part look to the 5th house for unicorns and hand holding. I have the Sun in the 5th so yes I do believe in fairytales 😉
Pluto in the 8th house manifestation
Change and Transformation
I have been thinking about Pluto in the 8th house lately, how it manifests for me and what they do not tell you in Astrology 101 textbooks. A “psychic” once told me; you bring men face to face with who they are and this makes it difficult for you to have relationships or friendships because people do not want to know who they are, they prefer to hide. I have been thinking about this lately. Torn between the notion of accepting people as they are or catapulting them to a better truer existence. I have an issue with this; I have an issue with accepting people as they are. I think in personal relationships we should seek to bring people to live there highest potential. I’m unsure if we should allow people we care about to perpetuate there less than glowing attributes. In personal relationships don’t we want to be involved with those that deliver us to our higher selves? Don’t we want someone that holds us accountable?
That is the deal with Pluto in the 8th house, Pluto is a probing planet when making an aspect to another person’s personal planet (Sun, Moon Mercury, Venus, Mars) in synastry or perhaps our own personal planet we seek to transform that planet. If Pluto in on your Sun or someone else’s, we wish to change their identity, if it’s on the moon we wish to purify and strip old feelings and replace them with new. It represents a cathartic transformative process, purge the old and make room for the new. Death and Rebirth. Personally I’m always changing; I have Pluto in my 8th house aspecting my sun, moon, mercury and Venus and is a part of a cardinal t square. Plutonian energies are always at work.
That being said, I have began to question my own motives, the fact that I wish to transform people. I do think at times who the fuck am I? If someone is happy screwing up there life, living a lie or in some faux relationship, let them. Ah but Pluto is Compulsive, to me it represents truth. Textbooks say With Pluto in the 8th house this is indicative of having the power to transform other peoples’ lives. Its compulsive really, I find myself digging and probing, the more reserved someone is the more I want to get in there, get inside and figure them out and truth be told once I get in there I’m gone, I lose interest. Mission Completed. I like to go where others fear to go, explore emotional depths and visit the crawl spaces of peoples mind.
The Truth
Pluto in the 8th is on a quest for meaning and truth. You can skip the pleasantries and the how was your weekend bullshit. And don’t even think about lying to me, because I know. People with Pluto in the 8th house pick up on the undercurrents. I also prefer heavy conversations; preferably the less long winded the better. This isn’t a placement for mincing words. I ask questions that others wouldn’t dare ask and people actually tell me there truths. Not all but most. I don’t do frivolous conversation and I hate meaningless chit chat. I want to know if you think you are married to the wrong person and which child of yours is your favorite? One of my favorite book series is: Post Secret I have the collection; people write in to a PO BOX there darkest secrets anonymously. I love that idea, write it down, send it in and free your soul. I have 0 judgments when it comes to confessions; I think the truth is a gateway like astrology to greater understanding. Pluto in the 8th house is a natural born psychologist.
Extreme in temperament, power struggles and death oh my
I’m a person of extremes; love/hate beautiful/ugly. I think I unconsciously seek out relationships with power struggles. Was I the only kid in camp that “dated” my camp counselor? Probably. Power struggles, digging, searching, changing and oh yeah dying. People always die on me, I can discuss death the way most people would talk about chores, it’s just with Pluto in the 8th house you are accustomed to it. I’m not the one to hold your hand when you 101 year old grandmother died, just saying. Like my fellow 8th house Pluto friend would say, call me when you lost a parent, a grandparent before the 6th grade.
Crisis
Pluto in the 8th is great during an emergency, I can handle high-pressure situations with ease, but have me miss my train to work or misplace my house keys and I’m crying in my purse and cursing at the top of my lungs. I always find that to be a weird dichotomy in my personality. I also fee easily wounded, Cancer Sun in the 5th house can be very needy, fragile but eventually I see my way through the tears, heart break and disappointment and use it to transform into some one greater.
Where is Pluto in your Natal Chart and how is he working for you?

Karmic Ties Revisited

Published November 25, 2012 by starsmoonandsun

Awhile ago I wrote an entry on Karmic Ties that you can read here: http://starsmoonandsun.com/2011/10/13/karmic-ties/

I struggled for quite some time with my connection to someone, a plutonic love. The Phrase “Plutonic Love” stems from heavy Pluto ties in synastry: see pic below.

I kept seeing him; he even booked his honeymoon night at my place of employment. Oh the pain was unbearable! Attempting to figure out the why? Why was this happening? The concepts of free will vs. fate. My obsession with movies such as The Adjustment Bureau.

Ultimately I decided:

Life leads you to a path known as fate and we wield our free will in deciding if we will travel it or not

We chose our own destiny to a certain degree, and sometimes we may be crazy about someone but we don’t see ourselves spending the rest of our life with them or the timing is off or 1 million other reasons. Synastry can tell you how you affect another person, it is the art of looking at your natal chart and another person’s natal chart and examining patterns these patterns do not offer promises of eternal bliss or a happy marriage or even that you will end up together. Life holds no guarantees.

Recently I was bothered by someone; he was sort of getting under my skin. Considering my plutonian nature if it itches I want to get underneath and scratch it, see what that is about. Why? Forever wondering why? I looked at our synastry (this is not a person I date) and I was surprised that we had some lovely aspects (my sun in exact trine to his moon, Venus in one another’s 7th house, moon in 8th and 4th house overlays, we both share the same soul mission with both of our north nodes in the 8th house, his Pluto in exact conjunction my to NN) I’m like what the heck is this? I sent the charts to another astrologer for a 2nd opinion clearly I could see there were issues his Mars Square my Pluto and conjuncts my Sun….. Her reply was: “I’m not sure if you believe in past lives, but you have a lot of karmic connections”. And then I had my ah-ha moment.

Karmic Ties in Synastry indicate you carry past Karma with another human being, that you have lived, fought, loved one another in a previous lifetime. Karmic Ties often involve the moons nodes or when an outer planet Saturn, Uranus, Neptune or Pluto all the way out in the universe touches a personal planet of another’s Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus or Mars.

I had the sudden realization that perhaps the only people that truly affect us in this life are those that we have lived past lifetimes with. Those of us that are seeking transformation in love, substance in life will not attract the superficial bonds that others are drawn too.

Ya know it has been a long time since I saw my plutonic love perhaps about a year. So odd considering there was a time I couldn’t so much as leave my house and go to the gym without seeing him, I like to think that perhaps I wronged him in some previous life or may be earlier in this one and with him having booked his wedding rooms at my hotel, we are even now. Karmic debt has been paid in full. Our connection was dark and murky, after each night with him it took me a week to recover. When an astrologer peeked at my synastry with this other non-datable person she said His Sun conjuncts you’re Saturn and can illuminate your darkness. And just like that I feel like the light turned on

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