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The Loss of a Job and the rule of 3

Astrologically most astrologers like to see a confirmation in more than one area when making a prediction. I like to stick with the rule of 3 which I will demonstrate in this post. I had advised my friend I saw a change in job and perhaps some financial restraints a year prior to him losing his job. I didn’t predict him being terminated because he works in a Union related position (no he is NOT in law enforcement) and I will tell you he is innocent on every account and in the end, he chose to resign. I don’t want to get into it more but I do want to show you how

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He was suspended and then officially terminated during a Full Moon phase.

Full Moons are for culmination, they are representative of endings

No Full Moon weddings please **************

A few times I have been to events where people are using Full Moons to bring forth newness and I cringe, that is what New Moons are about.

Full Moons occur when the Sun is opposite the Moon they relate to endings, they signify being torn in 2 directions as the Full Moon is across 2 houses in the natal chart.

He was terminated when the Full Moon was on his Midheaven this is the house of career and reputation.

Termination Chart

Also, Uranus planet of change and unexpected; things you do not see coming is squaring his Venus tight tight, the tighter the aspect the more it is felt. Uranus squared Venus the planet of money, located in his 6th house of work and Venus is the planet that rules his Midheaven (Taurus is on the 10th house cusp) in less than 1 degree. Indicating a shake up with money and career.

I think if Pluto had not just entered his 6th house of work this may have gone another way-Pluto in Capricorn rules “the man” power struggles, when Pluto is involved he is coming for your entire life. Pluto in the 6th doesn’t always = termination for some like Rob Kardashian it equals BIG health issues. I’m so tired of saying this but: you have to look at the whole chart. So, Pluto ruler of power struggles, placed in Capricorn sign of “the man” has just reentered his 6th house of employment, day to day activities, his routine. It forms an exact square to his moon indicating an emotional upset likely related to work.

Those transits alone could predict his job loss but I think the solar return (the true yearly horoscope) showed this entire situation with a lot less work.  The Moon and Uranus are placed in the 6th house of work. This almost always indicates a change in job. Where ever Uranus and the Moon are placed in the Solar Return chart you can expect a change.

Solar Return Job Change

Saturn often shows where we are blocked and restricted and it is located in his 2nd house of money earned.  When you lose employment, you want to look at the money houses as well.

His Progressed Moon is also in Capricorn-this indicates emotionally geared toward work and accomplishment, again this can indicate job changes. On the exact day he was terminated it entered his 6th house. For me; I quit smoking when it entered my 6th. The 6th house rules health, work and routine anything we do on a day to day basis.

During Mercury Retrograde in Capricorn in his 6th house of work while Pluto transited the 6th and conjunct his Venus he was able to submit his resignation and reach a financial agreement.

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Sins of the Father a little Astrological Karmic Inheritance. Sun/Uranus in the Natal Chart

I’m more into predictive astrology and synastry but the other day I sparked my own interest when tweeting about Charlie Sheens natal Sun conjunct Uranus.  Forgive me one other post will follow this about Denise Richards as per a request. I know some of you in boxed me wanting me to do Gwen Stefani but it is very difficult for me to do the astrology of people that I find tremendously dull

 

Last week I quoted Charlie Sheen on Twitter

 

“I’m tired of pretending like I’m not special. I’m tired of pretending like I’m not bitchin’, a total freakin’ rock star from Mars.”

 

He has natal Sun conjunct Uranus

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In Astrologer Adrian Ross Duncan’s book Astrology Transformation and Empowerment his chapter entitled Sun-Uranus visiting Planet Earth he writes

People with this aspect “tend to zoom out and view things dispassionately as if they were from outer space (and some complain that they feel as if they are)”

I began to wonder about Martin Sheens parenting with this aspect, not knowing much about him I would learn he was an alcoholic and not a very hands on father and to quote Emilo Etevez

“My father and mother, neither of them cared if Larry Fishburne [Sheen’s teenage co-star] and I jumped in a jitney and went to Manila for the weekend. President Marcos was in power, martial law was in effect, and you were shot on sight if you were seen on the street after 1am. What were they thinking?’ He says he recently asked his parents that very question. Their reply was, ‘We had four of you. If we had to lose one, we would. We were just trying to survive.’

The article goes on to describe Martin Sheen as “erratic” a word in astrology we would indeed use to describe Aquarius/Uranus energy.  Aquarius and Uranus in hard aspect (conjunction, square and opposition) to personal planets is where we say: fuck the system. I have Aquarius rising, I have my own issues with “the man” lol Uranus square Saturn Authority? What is that!

 

Charlie has Sun square Uranus and the Aquarius Midheaven. The Midheaven indicates both how he is viewed by the public-erratic, changeable etc. and it also gives a glimpse into his father

 

The Sun in the natal chart rules the father by sign, house placement and aspects along with the Midheaven. Both Emilio and Charlie have Uranus in hard aspect to the Sun and as I combed through countless articles of Charlie and Martin Sheen, I quietly wondered if Martin Sheen has ever taken any accountability regarding the condition of his adult son.

 

This got me thinking of the karmic inheritance in natal charts. I have done a lot of readings and have often noticed patterns Sun square Saturn; inheriting the fathers melancholic/depressive nature. I have seen up to four generations that have Sun square Saturn in the natal chart. My own father had Sun and Pluto as a part of a Stellium and I have Sun square Pluto in a configuration an astrological inheritance of intensity, loner mentality and the need to confront the darker parts of the identity. And with Sun in hard aspect to Uranus there is a need to buck the system, to be unapologetically you and this indeed tells the story of an erratic father.

 

Some quotes on hard Sun/Uranus aspects

Any contacts between the Sun and Uranus “signifies unusual parents and unusual childhood environment” “The influence of the father is important; he is unorthodox and unusual man in some way” – Astrologer Betty Lundsted

Sun Conjunct Uranus “The life will be unusual perhaps erratic” Any contact between Sun and Uranus indicates “unusual behavior can range from unorthodox on a healthy level to all kinds of perversity”. The person with Sun conjunct Uranus has to learn to channel the energy of the aspect or he will be controlled by it” Parents have problems raising this child for the child picked up the father’s unorthodox behavior” –Betty Lundsted

 

“There are several possibilities. It is unlikely that there was real intimacy with the father, though likely there was a lot of excitement connected with him” “The child gets use to not knowing whether the father is going to be there or whether he will be friendly a remote. Anything could happen, emotional dissociation takes place.

 

Martin Sheen does not have this aspect natal but I wonder if his parenting or lack of parenting kicked off generations of Sun aspecting Uranus that will need to be reconciled.

 

Starting with Charlie and Emilio and is very apparent in the charts of Charlies Children

Casandra Estevez born with Sun conjunct Uranus like Charlie

Lola Sheen Sun Square Uranus

Max and Bob Sheen Sun conjunct Uranus like Charlie

 

Sam Sheen; Charlies first child with Denise Richard is the only child that does not have Sun in hard aspect to Uranus perhaps Charlie Sheen was sober when she was conceived, she does have Sun in Pisces which can AT TIMES NOT ALL THE TIME indicate a father with addiction issues.

 

I believe it was Jung that wrote

 

“Among all possible ghosts that haunt man the spirits of the parents possess the greatest significance”

 

I wish more people thought of this before carelessly bringing children into the world

 

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A Little on the Astrology of Lamar Odom

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Oh Lamar Odom… I can’t tell you why I cried when I found out about of his current situation. I don’t like sports and I am anti anything Kardashian. But something about his energy has always been light to me like a big white light circles his aura. He seems like a cool breeze. I always say it’s a thin line between who we are and who we could be so let’s not judge his addictions, his actions and his demons. We are all struggling with something.  Lamar is a Scorpio Sun; Scorpio is the sign that is known for destroying itself. Scorpio rules death and transformation. This sign will die many times in one life time; let’s hope this time he will be reborn. Pluto/Scorpio is often compared to the caterpillar becoming the butterfly, it is no easy task. Scorpio Sun/Moon/Rising and strong Pluto types are familiar with death, it is etched into their lives. The having to let people go, that’s why you often find Scorpio types alone or drifting from person to person. Scorpios have known loss and they fear feeling that pain again. “Death always seems to be around me,” Odom told the Los Angeles Times in 2011. “I’ve been burying people for a long time.”

Odom has Neptune the planet of drugs, alcohol, addictions and artistry opposing his natal Moon in Gemini; the Moon rules our needs, our comforts. When Neptune meets the Moon we need to escape, perhaps we find comfort in alcohol we want to dissolve and merge (those are 2 big Neptune adjectives) into something. God perhaps you want to dream (Neptune) for a bit. I don’t think Pluto/Scorpio types get to dream that often, we simply know too much, see too much. When Neptune aspects the Moon in the natal chart It can mean a variety of things from an alcoholic mother, an unknown mother, or sorrow surrounding the mother, which is Odom since he lost his mom at the age of 12. In astrologer Adrian Ross Duncan’s book “Astrology Transformation and Empowerment” he writes “it is as if Moon Neptune individuals have their own private lake of sorrow” and goes on to say “Naturally the desire to take mood enhancing substances that can lift them out of sadness is strong”

His Neptune also squares Saturn, Saturn is the planet of boundaries, discipline, and authority and here comes Neptune planet of confusion and of dissolving, he knows no boundaries.

We must not forget his father is/was an addict the on and off quality of their relationship is reflected in the Sun conjunct Uranus aspect in Odom’s natal chart. The Sun ruling the father in astrology and Uranus is associated with anything that is erratic and has an unexpected quality.  Astrologer Adrian Duncan writes about the Uranus/Sun aspect “The sudden disappearance of the father can provoke reactions that create behavioral patterns that can be the root of a troubled environment later in life” Lamar once commented on his relationship with his father ” He wasn’t there to raise me. He was absent ALL of my life due to his own demons”

Lamar apparently overdosed on the day after a New Moon; during New Moons/Full Moons/Eclipses everything is heightened. The energy is heightened, the emotions are heightened, we are prone to excess and god you can’t seem to escape those feelings…. you drown in them.

Robin Williams killed himself on a Full Moon

Jim Carrey’s Girlfriend Killed herself after an Eclipse conjoined her Sun

L’Wren Scott killed herself on a Full Moon

Philip Seymour Hoffman killed himself with in a New Moon Phase

I am not saying Lamar intentionally overdosed but merely trying to prove the point that we are deep into our feelings during these periods.

Lamar is having an exact Saturn Conjunct Venus transit, Saturn rules restriction, delays hardships, coldness, hard work, and is considered Lord of Karma

Venus rules love, tenderness, affection, fun, sensual pleasure, and harmony.

Saturn on Venus leaves you feeling short on love, deprived of affection, it’s as though all the fun has gone out of your life.

I saw someone post something to the effect of poor Lamar Odom; lonely, depressed and unloved. That’s how the Saturn/Venus transit feels!

The New Moon was also in the sign of Libra ruler of love, marriage and partnership conjoining his natal Pluto so this pain must have run deep. Pluto is bottomless; Pluto rules the underworld, breakdowns, death and rebirth.

As a side note Venus conjunct Saturn can also rule sex workers. Saturn is work Venus is pleasure. (This aspect is quite common in sex workers) as is Mars conjunct Saturn Just an interesting foot note with him having OD at a Brothel.

If you are having thoughts of taking your own life call National Suicide Prevention Lifeline 1 (800) 273-8255

If you are struggling with addiction reach out and get help. People love you and are rooting for your sobriety. Even people that don’t know you are rooting for you!

I am wishing him recovery at god speed.

Lamar Odom Natal Chart

Lamar Odom

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Predicting divorce and a little Ben and Jen

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I noticed Ben Affleck and Jennifer Garner are in the tabloids again people are speculating for the 100th time after 10 years of marriage this time it is really over. Ben is off again on his own hitting the casinos, counting cards and enjoying some alone time. The man has the Moon in Scorpio (privacy) in his 5th house of gambling, betting and risk taking. This is his thing, will probably always be his thing no matter who he is with. The 5th house also rules sports and we all know he is a diehard Red Sox fan. No doubt he likely feels exposed when these reports surface, with Cancer Rising and the Scorpio Moon combined with all his planets below the horizon (in personal houses) and the only 2 planets above the horizon are in the 12th house of privacy this isn’t someone that wants to have his business out on front street. When I look at his synastry with Jennifer Gardner, I don’t see it. I don’t get it not on the paper in my hand and not when I see them. His feminine planets are in Scorpio and Cancer and the majority of her planets are in Gemini. Don’t get me wrong I never want to see him sprayed tan and emasculated standing beside Jennifer Lopez again but I don’t get this connection. Jen and Ben met when his progressed Moon was on his Descendent-when the progressed moon transits the 7th house it is likely you are ready for a relationship and Jens progressed Jupiter was conjunct her Descendent, she was also ready. But over the last several years while Saturn was in Scorpio Ben has had several hard transits to his Sun in Leo and Moon in Scorpio and once Saturn reenters Sagittarius it was pass over Gardners Gemini Moon, Venus and Mars. They won’t get a reprieve for a while.

The both of them also have Cancer Rising indicating they both have the same transits to houses for instance both of them now have Pluto digging its way through their 7th house of marriage and approximately 4 years from now they will have Saturn transiting their 7th. That can be the issue with having the same houses, who will be the partner to hold the others head above water if they are both drowning. When one is losing faith, it is likely so is the other! What’s that saying “the secret to a successful marriage is never falling out of love at the same time”. That is kind of hard to do when Pluto is knocking on both your doors simultaneously.

Hard times continue to be ahead for them and any relationship when you have outer planets (Saturn, Uranus, Pluto and Neptune) transiting the 7th house. But I don’t think divorce and break ups are an easy prediction. And I don’t think new astrologers should automatically assume divorce is a likely outcome when an outer planet enters a person’s 7th. After all people don’t necessarily stay married for some romanticized reason. Some people stay married for the children or in this case to avoid public scrutiny, some may stay together for the financial reasons…Bens Scorpio moon, Cancer rising and his Pluto in his natal 4th indicates he is very protective and dedicated to his family however dysfunctional that may be. Other couples stay together because the fear of the unknown is paralyzing. We do see this most with the fixed signs, Taurus, Scorpio, Leo and Aquarius and Ben Affleck has both, a fixed Moon and Sun. The natal potential of the individuals involved have to be taken into account. If for instance someone has natal Saturn conjunct Venus when Saturn transits their Venus this energy is familiar to them.

So instead of predicting the demise of a relationship lets prepare ourselves and others of what’s ahead

Saturn transits to Venus or through the 7th house

Shit or get off the pot, commit or quit, it’s now or never, for singles you want a permanent commitment. For married couples; love has become work. You are inundated with responsibilities-could be kids, could be career –could be you feel you are married to a nag. My ex said when Saturn was in his 7th house “if I knew marriage was going to be like a 2nd job I wouldn’t have done it” Marriage requires work when Saturn transits the 7th or your Venus. You may feel alone while married if you are single it is likely you feel lonely as well. Lessons in relationship, attracting karmic relationships, this brings huge tests. If your relationship is one that is rather dreamy and Neptunian Saturn’s visit to the 7th is like getting hit with a brick called reality

Uranus transits to Venus or through the 7th

Uranus is known as the planet of separation. I have seen this bring divorce, you want to be free, you have an affair, you are looking for excitement, you are searching for someone that is unconventional, you want to feel alive, you are smacked awake Singles attract Uranian types that are unlikely permanent. Married people may separate, or take on a side piece of ass. You can possibly divorce, or perhaps breathe new life into your partnership and/or redefine your relationship.

Pluto transits to the 7th

The superficial won’t do, digging deep, confronted with the darkest parts of your partnership all things Plutonian must be confronted, power struggles, secrets, the darkest parts of your relationship the stuff that lurks in the corner that you ignore demands to be confronted and only once you strip all the false pretense, dig deep to find your truth together and let go of all false pretense only then will your relationship die and be reborn. Survival is the theme, letting go of ego, of defining-what is-the ending of an era. For single people you attract Plutonian types, you become obsessed with someone unattainable, you get a stalker, you marry someone that wants to control your life, you long to discover the depths of someone. Either way the superficial will not do when Pluto enters your 7th house

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House of Cards Frank Underwood

House of Cards returns to Netflix on February 27 for season 3 and I will make sure I have a glass of Bordeaux and a comfy seat on the sofa for my binge. I love when shows assign fictional TV characters birthdates. Most of the time they accurately correspond with the character. Emily Thorne of Revenge is a Cancer, no one does revenge like a water sign, Olivia Pope is a Virgo the manner in which she operates always with precision. Claire Underwood is a dutiful though in her own right; power hungry Taurus and well Frank Underwood he is Scorpio born November 5, 1959.

Money, Power, Respect

 The Scorpio Sun

The Sign of Scorpio naturally gravitates toward power and money. Scorpios are slow moving and calculating, natural rulers of the 8th house they rule death, transformation, power, other peoples resources; some Scorpio adjectives are secretive, manipulative, resourceful and obsessive. They don’t bend or give up easily, if at all.

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You can see in Franks Chart he has Sun in Scorpio conjunct Mars, Mars is the traditional ruler of Scorpio with Pluto being the modern ruler. The Sun conjunct Mars makes Frank willful. A Prominent Mars is common in those that have a military and/or an athletic background, the nature of Mars is competitive. Mars is the planet considered the God of War. According to Frank Underwood’s bio he attended the Military School: The Sentinel. And episode after episode we see him manipulating others to adhere to his will. You’ll notice his strength isn’t boastful; its quiet yet intimidating this is the nature of Scorpio. His Sun in Scorpio also conjoins Neptune in Scorpio as we know Underwood is one prone to underhanded deals, and promises with him are often made with fingers crossed behind his back. People may look to Frank to save them (also a trait of Neptune being a savior). He may seem to have all the answers and offer dreams of grandeur along with a seat some place beside him in the Oval Office. The Sun Conjunct Neptune individual has the ability to hide their true motivations this is only enhanced by Scorpios nature to always remain poker faced even when confronted with great catastrophe they will never show their hand.

His marriage to Claire

Although we do not have his exact time of birth; the Moon was in Capricorn that day so naturally Frank gravitates towards an accomplished woman, one that is respectable, perhaps a woman that has the ability to enhance his status. The Moon is also representative of feelings; it is in detriment here so there is certain coolness, this isn’t a tender, expressive and affectionate person there is an austere vibe and a practicality to the Capricorn moon individual. Planets in Capricorn often ask will this work? Clearly his relationship with Claire works, she has sacrificed her own dreams to foster his, achievement is synonymous with Capricorn, as is reputation, and career .Claire clearly fits the bill. Underwood has Venus in Virgo (another planet in detriment both ruling feminine principals one would have to wonder what his childhood/mother was like) Venus square Saturn suggests coolness in relationships. The Venus/Saturn person doesn’t trust easily so they prefer a partner who is reliable and trustworthy above all else. We can clearly see him and Claire aren’t affectionate; they strategize, while smoking cigarettes sometimes electronic out the window. They are clearly committed despite their rendezvous with randoms (Scorpio after all rules sex and Neptune conjunct Mars isn’t particular about with whom)-but this isn’t the type of couple to kiss and hold hands and feed one another cake on a Saturday night. When Venus aspects Saturn there is no doubt a devoted quality, but love takes on a Capricorn vibe another indicator of love (Venus) and work (Saturn) somehow going hand in hand. I suppose they are working together hand and hand to get ahead.

I’m curious to see what season 3 brings but I have no doubt it will be just as duplicitous as the first 2 seasons. Frank Underwood also has exact Mercury/Pluto Square Astrologer Adrian Duncan wrote in his book Astrology Transformation and Empowerment

Mercury and Pluto: Secrets and Lies

“People with this aspect are born detectives. They have the ability to divine what is going on beneath the surface and the desire to probe others secrets”

Have at it Frank

xo

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“The Kiss of Death and The Google Exec”

I watched 48 hours last night, the episode was entitled “The Kiss of Death and The Google Exec” You can read the full story here

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2925587/He-nervous-went-Police-chief-describes-step-step-unseen-video-shows-high-end-escort-inject-father-five-Google-exec-lethal-heroin-overdose-aboard-luxury-yacht.html

Or here

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/coroner-ruled-google-execs-forrest-hayes-death-an-accident-says-public-defender/

It’s the story of a high powered extremely wealthy man by the name of Forrest Hays that was doing heroine-yes inject in your vein –heroine with a sex worker and overdosed on his luxurious yacht.  And now she-the escort is on trial for manslaughter for giving him the hot shot, the lethal dose that killed him. The hotshot  50+ something year old Hays chose to do.  I’m quite confident if he had been found in an abandoned building rather than on a $345,000 yacht no one would give two shits.

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But Forrest Hays was wealthy, he lived in Silicon Valley, was married for over 17 years with 5 children (I can’t find a single picture of his wife and family), he worked for Google on a top secret project (no one will say what exactly he did there), he loved his yacht which he named “Escape”, and he obviously loved escourts and drugs as well. All of this was screaming NEPTUNE to me. Secrets, illusions, drugs, prostitutes, the yacht …Neptune rules water and boats let’s not forget the array of secrets.

Some people you read about and you know what to expect in their natal chart. When Betty Broderick killed Dan Broderick she had Pluto exactly conjunct her Sun. It was a given- all that hate, jealousy, rage, over an affair and financial issues. Other people I am like huh? When I looked at the chart most recently of wealthy murderer and cross dressing Robert Durst …his chart is an anomaly to me (perhaps because he himself is an anomaly). But the kiss of death and the Google exec, I knew Neptune had to be prominent in his chart and it certainly is.

Neptune ruler of glamour, illusion, deception, water, addictive substances, boats, dreams, secrets,  etc

Often people with a prominent Neptune aren’t seen clearly by others, they have this thin veil, this filter they are seen through and depending on who is looking they may be viewed as a sinner or saint. Hardly in between.

Sometimes people with a prominent Neptune particularly in the 1st house or on the Sun or on their Natal Moon aren’t sure of who they really are so how can anyone else know them?

In any event Forrest Hays had his Sun in Taurus opposite Neptune in Scorpio, with the opposition it is likely you will operate in two distinct manners. So I am sure Hays was all the Taurus Sun is, dutiful, working hard, building his empire, (lets not forget Taurus can be indulgent, they rule greed) so he was buying his homes, and he also on occasion wanted to do his Neptune thing, take his yacht out called Escape, be with his escorts he met on a Seeking Arrangement.  Neptune on the Sun and Moon also speaks of drug use, the desire to escape, the desire to merge with something beyond the mundane. The natal Neptune is also in Scorpio so I am sure she wasn’t his first secret sexual encounter.

His success can be attributed to his natal Sun square Saturn, this is a difficult aspect the person may suffer from low self-esteem , hereditary depression passed down from the father;  the way the individual overcomes this is by working, by accomplishing, by becoming the best in his or her field. They have a desire to achieve to feel validated. I do not want to undermine this aspect it is very challenging. The person feels they have to overcome barriers …the desire to achieve is strong and can be reflected in his 4.5 million dollar home and a dozen other things we will probably never know about, because Neptune opposing his sun will keep things hidden.

I would love to tell you what he did as a career but I can’t Saturn planet of work and structure is exactly square his Neptune (secrets) as one article stated

“Hayes then went on to Google for a high-paying job at their top-secret location, where impossible dreams are transformed into reality”

Poor Forrest Hayes, his family is probably wondering who he really was. He probably didn’t know who he really was. I think these stories can be a lesson for anyone that looks at other peoples’ lives and sees a perfect picture. You never know what is lurking below the surface, don’t let that thin veil of Neptune fool you

Forrest Hayes Natal Chart

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Neptune & The GOATS Nas, Tupac, Biggie etc

I watched Nas’ Time is Illmatic this week, it got me wondering how may GOATS (greatest artists of all time) particularly rappers have a prominent Neptune in their natal chart. For those of you that aren’t familiar with Neptune it rules:
• Dreams
• Psychic Ability
• Imagination
• Bodies of water
• Idealism
• Illusion
• Addictive elements; drugs to drinking
• Fortune Telling
• The Illuminati & other so called secret societies
• Art and Music
• Neptune rules Pisces and Pisces rules the feet so here we find dance
• It rules the drug user and the drug dealer
• The thief
• The con-artist
• All creative types
There is a strong desire with Neptunian individuals to make the intangible tangible. They often want to give form to their creative/ imaginative/idealistic dreams.
Neptunian individuals are often considered the sinner or the saint.
I have a prominent Neptune; located in my 10th house. People rarely see me clearly. Once while taking tennis lessons I was in a crabby mood (I am a cancer) and my instructor said “here Queen take the court” in a very rude manner. On the way home from tennis some lady at the supermarket accused me of stealing bottled water. LOL I said it’s a rare occasion that I get to be the sinner and the saint, the Queen and the pauper all in one day.
I understand that desire to give form to your dreams. I get that even growing up in the midst of a less then idealistic environment, the desire to chase dreams? To find that perfect landscape off in the distance.My Neptune in the 10th house forms a grand fire trine to my natal Moon and natal Saturn. I considered myself to be a realist while maintaining the belief that all things are possible. I feel you can wake up one day and change your entire life.
The GOATS have/had to think that, they had to believe in better days. They had to possess the ability to take a dream, an ideal and turn it into something real.
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Nas has Neptune sextiling his Mercury, planet of communication we do not have his exact birth time but I do believe he quite possibly has Neptune on an angle (in the 1st, 4th, 7th and/or 10th house). To me he conveys this Neptunian idealism most outwardly in the lyric:
“open every door in Attica send em’ to Africa”
The entire “Street Dreams” album title to me is Neptune. Taking what you view around you, absorbing the elements and turning it into song
The Album entitled “Nastradamus” is so Neptune with Nostradamus ruling prophecy; prophecy/psychic ability being a Neptune thing.

I am not sure how others feel about DMX

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I 100% feel he could have been a GOAT had he not suffered from apparent mental illness combined with drug addiction. Both the darker sides of Neptune. He has Neptune squaring his moon which is a highly creative aspect but plagued at times with difficulties such as the aforementioned.

Eminem also has a prominent Neptune; it is at the tail end of his 12th house conjunct his ascendant. Here we have another person that has had to deal with the positive and negative attributes of Neptune

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Biggie

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Had Sun opposite Neptune
From the drug dealer to the artist
“it was all a dream” Hello does it get any more Neptune then that
His album Life After Death is very Neptunian; Neptune rules the 12th house of the after life

Although I don’t consider him GOAT, innovative more so but Jay Z has natal Neptune conjunct Venus and Mars square Neptune
He obviously has a long catalog of music

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And last but definetly not least Tupac

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Tupac had Jupiter conjunct Neptune, Moon trine Neptune, Venus opposite Neptune and several other Neptune aspects
Out of everyone I feel Tupac embodies Neptune most I saw him as a sort of prophet if we use the definition of prophet as “an effective or leading spokesman for a cause, doctrine, or group” odd as that may sound but I think he had a message to deliver and convey regarding certain social injustices. I think he falls under that Neptune veil of confusion people see him as either an artist or possibly as a criminal (he was convicted of sexual assault in the early 90s) , perhaps people saw him as violent having once hit a Director while filming a movie. And maybe he was ALL of those things a prophet, a sinner, an artist and a saint. Let us not forget The mysterious circumstances surrounding his death and his last album to be officially released prior to his death, entitled Makaveli.

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The Astrology of Love & Hip Hop of Hollywood

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